>
New Topic
>
Reply<
Esato Forum Index
>
Sony Ericsson / Sony >
General
> o2 delivery reports?
Bookmark topic
*0# does work with long messages and EMS, I do it all the time with no issues aside from the first few letters of your message are not what you typed.
The code is a GSM thing from way way back and in fact the 1997 date that is in the O2 reply above is a bit misleading as you were able to use it before then, Cellnet had text before 1997... for some of us.
I used to use the *0# on orange way back in 1995 because their delivery reports were flakey to say the least.
--
Posted: 2005-01-18 18:22:43
Edit :
Quote
AFAIK Only Vodafone provide true delivery reports, in the same way only Vodafone in the UK can you get the local area code displayed on your mobile under the operator logo.
--
Posted: 2005-01-18 19:47:48
Edit :
Quote
shame vodaphone charge extortionate prices and customize their phones to complete crap. otherwise id be with them.
interesting that it seems tmobile use the same system, gonna reply to this guy again
--
Posted: 2005-01-18 21:27:19
Edit :
Quote
Quote:
On 2005-01-18 19:47:48, csi_bha wrote: local area code displayed on your mobile under the operator logo.
nice. Very well thot feature.
--
Posted: 2005-01-18 21:31:00
Edit :
Quote
right lets see what they say to this
With regards to your original reply
"O2-UK do support the use of Delivery Reports for text messaging. However, this is something that is supported directly on the network and not via the handset menus. As handsets are manufactured for worldwide use, some of the ‘behind the scenes coding’ on the handsets do not interact fully with the messaging technology on O2-UK. After investigation shortly after the release of the SMS service on the GSM network in 1997 we found that the delivery reports that were being requested by the handsets were returning false data. When interacting with the network , the request was being returned from the messaging platform saying “Delivered”, but in essence this meant that the message had been delivered to the platform and not the destination mobile. The solutions for this were either to a) request that phone manufacturers coded their phones to be compatible with our network messaging technology, b) replace the messaging technology on the network or c) develop a coding protocol ourselves. As Options A & B were either impractical or carried high expense, O2-UK developed a delivery report system that is built directly into the text message, rather than an ad-on request by the phone."
The *0# code was not developed by o2 in 1997, for a start it can be used on T-Mobile(and when it was one2one) and since you admit yourself in the previous reply, that you have no knowledge of other networks systems, I can safely assume this was not something that o2(BTCellnet) sold to One2One at the time, therefore it is a common system and not something o2 ever developed for themselves. The original reason for this was that some early phones did not support the delivery reports built into the phone (early ericssons and motorola). Infact when it started in 1997 only the nokia 8146 supported delivery reports on the phone, hence the need for this code at the time. The same *0# code was used as far back as 1995 on the Orange network.
Also judging by whats just been shown on Watchdog, the same strange/old sms system/setup that o2 have is maybe whats causing the K700 and S700 problems.
I believe there are 2 possibilities. 1: o2 are just so far behind that they havent bothered to set up proper delivery reports because the sms system literally hasnt been touched in almost a decade other than additional capacity, or 2: o2 have purposefully not set it up because making it easy for people to get delivery reports on all their texts would put more load on the systems and cost a little more for o2.
ave some of that!
--
Posted: 2005-01-18 21:46:12
Edit :
Quote
I always found it odd that O2 could not do delivery reports correctly, dut now I know why! A very useful series of posts.
Having dissed O2, I have to say that the lack of delivery reports is more than made up for the lack of horrendous customisation of the phone most other networks insist on giving us! O2 also have great online deals too (with 500 free texts per month), which is one of the main reasons I have stayed with them.
Mind you, if I had a Voda or Orange phone I would just use DaVinci and remove all the foul customisations anyway. I did it for my O2 K700 just to get an updated formware and remove the O2 icon in the main menu
--
Posted: 2005-01-18 21:47:03
Edit :
Quote
does anyone know whether we will get charged for the delivery report? thanks!
--
Posted: 2006-11-02 13:42:40
Edit :
Quote
To Make It Easier for everyone to understand here i go.
Orange do a delivery report on all tarrifs, If you are on PAYG and a non Animal Tarriff then the report is free. Animal Tarrifs are charged at 1p a time.
No other networks charge for the delivery report.
O2 uses a older system of sending sms and this is why you dont get a report without typing in *0#
All the other networks updated the sms platforms to incorparte the delivery reports.
And the answer will 02 upgarde. currenlty no. The sms works so why mess with something that isnt faulty.
Hope this all makes sense.
--
Posted: 2006-11-02 15:26:33
Edit :
Quote
Delivery reports are not chargeable as it's not a SMS sent to you, it's more like an acknowledging 'ping' (in computer terms) or tiny signal that bounces back,
I'm guessing they just need to update their systems but it would take a lot of doing to implement a new system while the old one is handling all the messages and do a handshake as they switch over,
you can't just switch a new one on and the old one off, imagine all the lost messages and angry customers (well maybe they could on New years eve at midnight when most message systems seem to collapse under the strain after all who would know! lol
(kiddin)
I think they will get there eventually with SMS as an example MMS delivery reports are working on O2.
--
Posted: 2006-11-02 15:38:35
Edit :
Quote
Hey darrengf,
I didn't know you were typing an answer, I should have waited.
--
Posted: 2006-11-02 15:53:39
Edit :
Quote
New Topic
Reply
