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sapporobaby Posts: > 500

@Bandit

Ever hear of the business market. PDA's will always find a home here. I have the M600i just for this purpose and it is rightly targeted at such. These Cybershot phones and Walkman phones are targeted at a specific market. There are divergent markets with various demographics within these markets. I am currently working in Kuwait, and travel back and forth through out the region. Many of the younger class are sporting several phones. They tend to have the higher end SE phones (P990, M600) and the mid range Nokia's. If you ask them, they say that one phone tends not to meet their needs. Some like the music functions while the others like the camera. So while your opinion has merit, it is rather myopic in context with the overall scheme of things.
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Posted: 2006-10-19 22:54:45
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nalbagli Posts: 302

for me one of the biggest cons of Walkman Phones (apart from capacity) is that you have to use the %·$"%$&" adaptor to connect the headphones
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Posted: 2006-10-19 23:26:47
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driftmania Posts: > 500

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On 2006-10-19 07:12:12, egrus wrote:
Doods! Relax! Sound quality is very comparable between the walkman phones and the iPod. Hardware-wise they do produce the full audio spectrum of 20-20.000 Hz (the digital miracle age). It all depends on your mp3 or m4a encoder (lame being the best so far). The right headphones are important too but don't forget that nobody I know can hear anything above 16 khz, those frequencies work for cats and dogs! We tend to start losing our hearing of any frequencies above 16khz when we get exposed to loud sounds (clubs, motorcycles, loud volume on the headphones etc) and everything above that is just air! If you are an audiophile you better get sound isolating earphones and lock yourself in a closet, but that's not the case. The case, as I posted earlier, is having fun and getting away from the gloomy trends i.e. iPods, trillion gigapixel cameras and so on except if you are a pro and are totally obsessed with style and function. The walkman phones hands down are the future of portability with high quality. Nothing like the dedicated individual gadgets but nevertheless really worthy! If I were a photographer walking around and something was happening at a specific moment do you think that I would be as fast to capture a sudden moment with my pro camera? No way! I would have to open my bag and get it out and turn the power on. The walkman phone is instant! Instant gratification and who cares about the quality if you capture the moment!!!! Also with the music thing, they sound great even better with dedicated earphones (etymotic, shure, sony to name a few) but at this point and time you can find very descent earphones for much less than those giants. Just take a pick at forums like Mistic River and you'll see. Again, everybody will have ideas about iPods and iPhones and iRivers and Sansas and Dell but the bottom line is the fun that you get, when you want to get it and the walkman phones are faster than anything I know. Again, there's no comparison, I just find the walkman phones VERY smart


taking a picture with a K800 or whatever is far from instant. like a normal camera, you have to press a button or two, and wait for it to load to the viewfinder, then you have to press for a second or two. it's not all that INSTANT. and exactly how is a all-in-one phone "fun"? you get to listen to music on a phone? exactly how the hell is that "fun"?and also, the sound quality on the W900 isn't even that great. if you start making it loud, the quality lessens,
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Posted: 2006-10-20 04:12:40
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egrus Posts: 27

@ driftmania

You wrote:
"taking a picture with a K800 or whatever is far from instant. like a normal camera, you have to press a button or two, and wait for it to load to the viewfinder, then you have to press for a second or two. it's not all that INSTANT. and exactly how is a all-in-one phone "fun"? you get to listen to music on a phone? exactly how the hell is that "fun"?and also, the sound quality on the W900 isn't even that great. if you start making it loud, the quality lessens, "

Ok, if you don't like it then don't use it! Get an iPod instead and a dedicated camera! As for my K750/W800, in less than 3" I am able to take a pic! But I don't suppose that's instant for you : P And you don't understand "fun"? Like listening to music, watching videos, sending a pic from the middle of nowhere to your friends, SHARING? If you had read my previous posts and still think that the walkman phones are not fun then I can't help you, maybe you should find a new gadget, sport or religion and get interested again, dood! Oh, yes, don't know about the W900 but my K750 kicks ass! Soundwise and otherwise and proven by thousands of happy owners having fun with it! I hope one day you will be able to customise it, and see/hear heaven once again!

@ Sapporobaby
I hope your refrigerator gets fixed soon, no fun living without one, sorry about that and I appreciate your responses

Final
I will think about coming back to this forum, I feel that some people don't get it, I gave my opinions, enjoy! I think for now I will go through some links instead about International TV on cellphones for free

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Posted: 2006-10-20 04:39:46
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Bandit Posts: 129

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On 2006-10-19 22:54:45, sapporobaby wrote:
@Bandit

Ever hear of the business market. PDA's will always find a home here. I have the M600i just for this purpose and it is rightly targeted at such. These Cybershot phones and Walkman phones are targeted at a specific market. There are divergent markets with various demographics within these markets. I am currently working in Kuwait, and travel back and forth through out the region. Many of the younger class are sporting several phones. They tend to have the higher end SE phones (P990, M600) and the mid range Nokia's. If you ask them, they say that one phone tends not to meet their needs. Some like the music functions while the others like the camera. So while your opinion has merit, it is rather myopic in context with the overall scheme of things.



@sapporobaby

u misunderstood my comment on PDAs. I said DEDICATED PDAs. PDAs that do nothing except be a PDA. the m600 is a PDA-phone.
Re: cameras. Sorry, i lapsed and didn't type clearly. I meant as cybershot cam-phones head into 5+megapixel, dedicated point and click cameras will go by the wayside.

Plus I've said nothing about people with multiple phones that have different functions. Absolutely, people will be carrying phones for different purposes. One of which, is going to be as an accessory / fashion.

I DO however, believe that there cometh a day very quickly that there will be an all encompasing 'mobile'. A fully functioning PDA / camera / mp3 player / phone. The P990 is close.....but camera's only at 2.0, the mp3 player is rather mediocre, the whole machine tends to crash a lot and it's still a tad clunky compared to most other phones.

~LB
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Posted: 2006-10-20 16:48:50
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Bandit Posts: 129

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taking a picture with a K800 or whatever is far from instant. like a normal camera, you have to press a button or two, and wait for it to load to the viewfinder, then you have to press for a second or two. it's not all that INSTANT. and exactly how is a all-in-one phone "fun"? you get to listen to music on a phone? exactly how the hell is that "fun"?and also, the sound quality on the W900 isn't even that great. if you start making it loud, the quality lessens,


heehee...i'm just being argumentative....
1. sound quality isn't that great, but for what it is, it's good enough. Besides. you really shouldn't be listening to music so loudly. It's really bad for your ears =)~

2. fun is different for everyone. There are some people who find watching paint dry fun. I'm not one of them, but there are people like that. So don't mock someone else's sense of fun =)~

3. you're splitting hairs. a second or two wasted at initialising the camera is far less time consuming than taking a camera out of your bag, turning it on pointing and clicking. I think that's all the previous post was getting at.


~LB
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Posted: 2006-10-20 16:54:01
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mephisto2k Posts: 87

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but for those who like/have a use for watching videos on the move:

a) The iPod has a bigger screen than the K800 (or other video capable SE device)

b) more importantly, have you ever tried to FF to an exact point in a film with a K800? Piece of cake on an iPod!

That's why the iPod beats an SE phone for watching video...
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Posted: 2006-10-20 17:41:41
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leeboy13 Posts: > 500

OMG..... your comparing a dedicated music player to a phone???????????

OK, lets compare a elephant to a car shall we???? this is rediculous!!!!

its personal pref at teh end of the day but surely we can say that an ipod is better music wise and a phone is betetr for calling with
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Posted: 2006-10-20 17:53:58
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driftmania Posts: > 500

@leeboy, scroll up, and tell me what the title of this thread is.
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Posted: 2006-10-21 02:31:27
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leeboy13 Posts: > 500

i saw

Just boggles my mind you can compare the two to such an extent that you are..... each to their own i guess..... I shouldnt have got envolved, this is simply wasting my time aswell now.....
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Posted: 2006-10-21 10:01:14
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