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Superluminova Posts: > 500
Been advised by O2 to email this address with any complaints
mycare@o2.co.uk get emailing folks
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Posted: 2007-11-11 21:03:08
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with regards to the ofcom/unlocking/contract issues dont you think the legal teams at apple/o2 would have made sure they are covered in every way?
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Posted: 2007-11-11 21:11:53
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@indup
Er NO, they are large corporations who think they can do as they please but time will tell if they are right or not and it appears quite a lot of people believe they are wrong.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-11-11 20:16 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 21:16:17
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When we all discussed this unlocking requirement before, no one could actually find any online links to any laws saying that a mobile telco is required to give an unlock code.
All that was found were industry guidelines issued by OFCOM, that unlock codes should be available and should cost no more than £30.
Has anyone actually found the
real written law on this situation, or are we all still just assuming that we have a legal right to an unlock code?
Perhaps Apple and O2 are getting around this potential flaw in their business plan by it being Apple (the manufacturer) who locks the phones, not O2 (the network)???
Am I wrong in saying its the network who locks phones from all other manufactuers?
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Posted: 2007-11-11 21:21:01
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londonlad123 Posts: > 500
Even if O2 did give the unlock code to anyone that rings, you still wouldnt be able to install 3rd party apps on the phone. a hack is the only way to make full use of iphones potential. On the other hand many may just be happy to use the phone.
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Posted: 2007-11-11 21:51:53
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At the end of the day the iPhone setup isn't like a normal phone setup, O2 and Apple have a contractual agreement that allows the iPhone only to be used with O2.
When I spoke to a bloke in the O2 shop I asked him what Ofcom have to say about the situation and he told me that no law is being broken, as the law is: that an unlock code must be provided after the minimum term contract has finished.
The iPhone is for sale on O2 end of story, if you don't want to go on O2 don't buy an iPhone, no-on forces you to go to the store and buy it, and if you do you know full well what network you are buying it from.
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Posted: 2007-11-11 21:58:13
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On 2007-11-11 21:21:01, JoolsG4 wrote:
Perhaps Apple and O2 are getting around this potential flaw in their business plan by it being Apple (the manufacturer) who locks the phones, not O2 (the network)???
In which case, that's monopoly and that is illegal.
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Posted: 2007-11-11 22:06:36
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@JoolsG4
As far as i am aware no one has found the actual Law if their is one, but i have spoken to OFCOM who when i explained the situation about the iPhone being purchased outright and then being forced to only use it on one Network as it was locked to them. They told me they could not investigate or act until the device was released and they would not unlock it. Now that this is what's happening i can speak to them tomorrow and see what they say. obviously i will report here what they say and if they say i need to of purchased one i will assist some one that has purchased one. As i just hate big corporations that try and inflict their will with restrictive practices.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-11-11 21:18 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 22:18:17
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I was just searching, yet again, for any ofcom ruling or notice (or anything really) on their site pertaining to any regulation of sim locking but the only document that keeps coming up is from 2002 "
Review of SIM-locking policy"
I've also been through the telecommunications act and find nothing on this topic of compulsory provision of unlock codes
while calling them is one thing, if this is correct there surely should be something documented and easily findable, so I for one am very curious if anyone else can come up with evidencial proof of this assertion regarding compulsory unlocking by uk networks?
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Posted: 2007-11-11 22:27:09
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Superluminova Posts: > 500
Not sure if it helps but there was definitely an article in mobile news about this not to long ago. so maybe someone should speak to them?
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Posted: 2007-11-11 22:31:33
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