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jbendaou Posts: 458

d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z,
dont jump on my neck now...i only gave an example...about the food, women,p800's...I also mentioned food didnt i?
ok u want a realistic example...how is that ?>>>what if the US cam eto phili... and broguth a tock of green cards, and said well first come first served????Wouldnt you join on it??? well you sure did in ur own way, cause u are americain citizen now...
come on now i only gave an example...when i said girl,p800's,etc... i wanted to show that it would depend on everyone's NEEDS...WELL i see it very realistic...and of course you are gonna contradict me....
AND if u were trying to say that i dont like the US for sending food to those people...well you are wrong...and i doubt that there is anyone against the US sending food to help...Maybe they should do it (more" in ethiopia,etc...
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Posted: 2003-03-28 16:46:00
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dave_uk Posts: > 500

@sulfuriq - you are an illiterate moron. Go away, learn English, get some informed opinion and then maybe, just maybe, we'll let you come back!

@jbendaou - mate, I really don't get your point. You've gone off on this whole tangent about the humanitarian aid. If you're not saying it's a bad thing, which you're obviously not(!), then what are you saying? They're only giving aid as another form of propaganda, to swing public opinion? Don't believe the Iraqis support the war just because they're gratefully accepting the food/supplies that the US are VOLUNTARILY providing (and the UK)?

I notice you yourself seem to be an American citizen....
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Posted: 2003-03-28 18:37:00
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cyanx7 Posts: 228

this forum tires me.
i normally base my opinions in the information i know to be true... i can't judge anything without being at least a LITTLE informed on the subject... i know i allready wrote stupid things in here... but at least they came out of my own head. MY HEAD gives me my conclusions and judgements... i don't make comments about something that's been fed to me and of what i know almost anything, like so many people do here... this is endless. many people step over others sometimes because they don't have enough real knowledge to discuss issues properly... they're like those radiocommanded cars that keep hiting the wall again and again, 'cause the guy at the control is distracted...
there's no chance of reaching any conclusion here. maybe that's why the creator of the forum bailed out.

i'm out of here...
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Posted: 2003-03-28 19:16:00
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jbendaou Posts: 458

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On 2003-03-28 18:37, dave_uk wrote:
@jbendaou - mate, I really don't get your point. You've gone off on this whole tangent about the humanitarian aid. If you're not saying it's a bad thing, which you're obviously not(!), then what are you saying? They're only giving aid as another form of propaganda, to swing public opinion? Don't believe the Iraqis support the war just because they're gratefully accepting the food/supplies that the US are VOLUNTARILY providing (and the UK)?

I notice you yourself seem to be an American citizen....


my point is not because the people from iraq accept the food,etc... that make them hate their president. that is what i meant...and of course there are some who hate him.
And what do you think about http://www.aljazeerah.us being shot down? Liberty of speech???Yea right, i could say that CNN,etc...is also full of it too...I personally like the news on BBC, the news we get from BBC is a lot better than the americain channels.
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Posted: 2003-03-28 20:57:00
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d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z Posts: 186

@ jbend are you an american citizen too? by reading your post you really hate what the gov't of your country where you are living is doing to iraq and i see some anti-usa in you. then why are you still staying in DC? if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. as for you reply about the usa giving out greencards to the philippines; many pilipinoes there wants to be a us citizen for the record. why? well you already know that for you are living in the usa. before the philippines gained indepence from the usa most of them at the time favor becoming a us territory like guam or puerto rico. look at them now enjoying the benefits the usa has to offer like better health care, free education, better public utilities etc. only the proud politicians favor independence eventhough it is evident that they could not govern very well and the country could not yet stand on their own feet. look at the philippines now a 3rd world country. look at japan the usa taught them everything they know and became an economic super power. japan supports the usa 100% due to paying a favor back, returning a favor or giving help and support back is typical in japanese culture. also japan is the no.1 investor in the philippines. why? well japan destroyed the philippines back in the last world war so they hqve been helping the country econimically since after that. I SAY AGAIN TO ALL WHO HATE THE USA BUT ARE LIVING OR STAYING IN IT AND BENEFITTING FROM FREEDOM GET THE HELL OUT! YOU HAVE NO LOVE FOR YOUR ADOPTED COUNTRY AND HAVE NO GRATITUDE. shutting down a country's tv and print media is a prt of psychological warfare. read about it. russia and china has nukes since the 1950's and russia and the usa has stopped targetting each other when the ussr broke up. the usa and china have removed some of their missles targetted on each other due to better relations. russia will loose to the usa in a no nuke war due to russia has no cash to sustain it while the usa has lots. that's why russia's forces have been doing cut backs and most of their weapons are rotting due to lack of money for maintenance.

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[ This Message was edited by: d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z on 2003-03-28 21:23 ]
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Posted: 2003-03-28 22:07:00
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jbendaou Posts: 458

d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z,
This is the last time i would let you disrespect me...i am not going to loose my temper now, but i urge you to handle yourself when you talk to me or anyone else...i never directed any insult to you, but if you keep talking to way you do, i would see myself compelled to go down to your level.
Anyways, now i am gonna explain something. First of all the US did not teach Japan anything(unless you are talking about the war and lose of human lifes), Japan was and is a country where its people are devoted to their own country...why are they successful?they are because they have a different way of doing business then in any other country...the people there dont believe in lunch breaks, vacation, paid OverTime,etc...AND this is what makes their power...
I am glad Japan is helping "your" country because it destroyed it a few years back...that definitely is a good attitude.
And let me tell you something...You dont make any sense when u say well people who dont like the US, shoudlnt be here.(well let me correct you), there are americains who are AGAINST the war in Iraq. So should the real americains leave as well??? I never said and no one said they hate America...dont go jumping on conclusions so fast because you have read 1 book or 2 or a 1000. People hate the GOVERNMENT...and last time i checked the government is screwed up, and many americains would agree with me...if u need any lights, well just look at the way Bush won the elections. So, i hope now you get my point.
And i am not here to live all my life, as i told your friend Fuhrer, i am here to study...And YES, school in the US are a lot better than in my country or even in "your" country. Let me tell you something...i have no intensions on getting a green card or anything to stay here all my life, like you are probably planing on doing. So now you know why i am here...and once again, i have nothing against america, i have something against the attitude of the government...DONT TELL ME THE GOVERNMENT IS THE COUNTRY!!!Cause if the government is the country, that means that Iraq'a government is fcuked up and that also means the citizens are also fcuked. So i hope we are clear on that one.
And DONT say things i never said or try to read people's mind or even put words on their mouth...THIS country did not adopt me as you were implying in ur last line.
And i wont get the hell out for that reason, and for another reason...THE AMOUNT OF MONEY I AM CONTRIBUTING TO THIS COUNTRY FOR MY LIVING EXPENSES AND TUITION FOR 7 YEARS NOW.
And for your information, school is not free for me as you said earlier about you...
Now, i think i made some things clear, and hope you will not disrespect me the way you did in ur previous post...


CORRECTION: this http://www.aljazeerah.us ,is not an iraqui source of media. So you go and read about it first then come and talk to me.
So they had no reason to shut it down...I would agree with you if it did belong to iraq, but now i think u have to do some reading urself...


PS...i really dont get it, why is it that everytime u write something, you have to say, go read about it???NOW IT IS UR TURN TO DO SOME RESEARCH ABOUT http://www.aljazeerah.us AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT TV STATION,ETC...
I hope you dont think that you are better than anyone...that is the only reason i can think of when i hear u say go read, go research,blah blah blah...There are more polite ways to do it.




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[ This Message was edited by: jbendaou on 2003-03-28 21:46 ]
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Posted: 2003-03-28 22:39:00
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d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z Posts: 186

i did not disrespect you in any way whatsover? you will know if i have disrespected you by for example; saying harsh or bad words to you like f**k you or you're an asshole etc. ok. i am just asking a simple question to you and that's it. i thank you also for answering back. if you are getting pissed up at me asking you a plain simple question then it's me who has no problem. japan was taught by the usa on electronics, automobiles and how to do business the capitalist way and that's it. the japs just incorporated their own ways to that to be sucesful. they also have lunch breaks and paid vacations just like a western company does. i have friends from japan so i know and i have been there. i meant in free education only in public schools till high school and low tuition fee in the community colleges but at the universities no. you have been staying here for 7 yrs and you do not know that? most of the true americans support their troops in iraq and only a small few opposes what they are doing and i can see that almost every home here has us flags displayed at the front so hence the rise in us flags sales again after 9/11. people hate the gov't but not the us armed forces fighting in iraq. but who ordered the army there and they are just following orders like a good soldier. you are enjoying the benefits of the us education here but you are against the usa as i have read in your previous posts and my compadre fuhrer let me read all your pm's to him. who issued you a student visa? the INS which is a gov't run agency right? you should be grateful for that and you are very lucky due to many people who like to study here and wants a good education are mostly denied student visas. just be content with what your country has to offer if you're like that. al jazera tv is broadcasting saddam's speeches and so the us needs to end that. psychological warfare dude, it the opposing army cannot recieve any moral words from their commander then that demoralizes them and breaks their will to fight so they surrender. i do not need to get a greencard due to i once had one. they repalced it with a passport with the usa logo on it. get it? it is not a bad thing or dispicable for anyone to seek a better life elsewhere and i am still helping the philippines due to i sent us dollars back which the country badly needs. i did not tell you the gov't is the country and of course you must contribute the money here for you have to pay to study here. AGAIN I REPEAT, I HAVE NO DISRESPECT TO YOU OR ANYONE HERE. peace!
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Posted: 2003-03-28 23:23:00
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Yoeppie Posts: 257

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people hate the gov't but not the us armed forces fighting in iraq. but who ordered the army there and they are just following orders like a good soldier.


HHmmmmm where did i hear that before ohh yes i rememeber it was the Nazi's saying We where just following orders like a good soldier
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Posted: 2003-03-29 00:06:00
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d' fuhrer Posts: 163

@yeo
yeah but the nazis are different for they wanted their pure arian race to rule the world and the yanks are a mixed people. will you not fight if your gov't asks you too?

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Posted: 2003-03-29 01:22:00
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Yoeppie Posts: 257

Ahh Bruder hahha,

So what is the difference?? the Yanks are out to rule the "Black Gold" Ooooops sorry i mean the world !
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Posted: 2003-03-29 01:32:00
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