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@makbil: Good one

I didn't consider that factor
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Posted: 2007-08-24 08:04:00
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On 2007-08-23 22:29:18, skblakee wrote:
I am hoping that Boinng thinks so as well and has a good laugh at it.
I certainly do, and did
Let me know when the official P series designation committee is in session
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Posted: 2007-08-24 09:49:17
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Imagine, how we would all laugh, if it would have a flip with a rocker keypad underneath
And SE would name it 'Real P'-3i in order to avoid any debates on its controversial design
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Posted: 2007-08-24 10:18:46
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I reckon the shift came when Blackberries became the new Palm.
P for PDA... the idea was that M for Messaging would counter the Blackberry threat... The fact that the P1i is not called M610i is a recognition that SE messed up with the P990i so badly that they completely forgot what number they'd got to and had to start counting again.
I'm hoping that SE try and figure out some more shapes to put the P-series into. Looking at how stuck Palm got with the Treo, and SE's development rate with UIQ based touchscreen phones... don't wanna see them give up on a good thing.
If they could make the flip more like a proper clamshell?
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Posted: 2007-08-24 10:50:57
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On 2007-08-24 10:18:46, myth® wrote:
And SE would name it 'Real P'-3i in order to avoid any debates on its controversial design
This would imply that SE actually knows what it's designing. After their last successful smart phone P910, SE has given no indication that they know what they are doing, both technically and management wise.
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Posted: 2007-08-24 15:27:57
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On 2007-08-24 09:49:17, Boinng wrote:
On 2007-08-23 22:29:18, skblakee wrote:
I am hoping that Boinng thinks so as well and has a good laugh at it.
I certainly do, and did
Let me know when the official P series designation committee is in session
I will give you a heads up on the committee meeting Boinng but you might have to stay by the door and listen in.
Seriously though is it a consensus that the p910 was

's best made and best selling PDA? Best made for its time of course.
What kept the P990i from being so and is the P1i going to be similar in terms of sale and performance?
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Posted: 2007-08-24 16:04:00
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lol did u guys heard abt p5 wtf is wrong with SE man...
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Posted: 2007-08-24 16:18:09
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P5 has nothing to do with se, its just a design by a member
see here
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Posted: 2007-08-24 16:20:20
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On 2007-08-24 16:04:00, skblakee wrote:
Seriously though is it a consensus that the p910 was

's best made and best selling PDA? Best made for its time of course.
The P910 was a good, rounded, mature package - building on two years experience of the same basic hardware and software combination in the P800 and P900... I liked the P910, but it wasn't particularly advanced for its time, and after having had the P800 for two years previously I wasn't sure it was all that much of an upgrade.
For me the P800 is SE's defining smartphone moment - it really did blow everything else away at the time, it was a groundbreaking design and groundbreaking phone, and it put SE firmly on the smartphone map. Of course it was overtaken in time, and the P900 managed to take much the same phone and sell it a lot better, but still - without the P800, the P series would be nowhere!
What kept the P990i from being so and is the P1i going to be similar in terms of sale and performance?
The P990 is a curious beast in my eyes. It suffered all the downside of being "the first" like the P800 before it - it was such a leap from the P910 in terms of the new software, and features which were entirely new to the P series like wifi, 3G, a
decent camera, even the FM radio - and obviously history tells us that they didn't get all those things right, in fact the software was nowhere near ready and even the hardware wasn't fully up to the job (in terms of memory). At the same time, I think they shot themselves in the foot by sticking with the old P series style - and flip lovers don't shoot me for this, I'm not just talking about the flip - but also the sheer bulk of the thing. When you compare it to the M600 (which actually came out before it) and now the P1, you really have to wonder if they had to make it that big, or whether they were just echoing it's P series fore-runners for the sake of it.
The P1 is kind of the P900 of this new UIQ3 series; it's taking the same technology, making some modest but necessary improvements to the internal hardware, but more than anything making the whole thing sexy again - it's lighter, slimmer, closer to what people expect of a bang-up-to-date smartphone (even though it's not particularly), and generally more fun to be with. It's also benefitted hugely from the massive beta-test that was the P990, and more mature as a result of that. It's no pioneer, it's not going to win any awards for its cutting edge credentials, but it should sell well.
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Posted: 2007-08-24 16:57:41
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Thanks for that Boinng. I am really wondering about the P1 and how much up to date it is. Personally I want/wanted my p990 to last me until I finish with college sometime next year then I move to the next one. However I was devastated when

brought out the p1 so soon after I had paid $500 for my ph0one.
Instability issues also made me weary of

and made me want to wait a long time before I invest that much money in another phone with

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Personally with regards to the flip I like it but hate the bulk of the phone so I don't want get back into that.
I feel a good bit betrayed by

for a couple of things.
1) Not enough RAM
2) Too many bugs
3) No quad band on their top phone for the third time and I cannot understand why they leave it out. I have moved through the Caribbean and US the last couple of years and believ you me I know what it means to not have total coverage.
4) Cheap headset with their top phone,both thhe P910 and p990i.
Anyway my loyalty remains with

until they really screw me up again.
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Posted: 2007-08-24 17:14:24
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