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c96sthl Posts: > 500

ynohtna

SE is still using Symbian. Ericsson used to have a project working with Microsoft but last press conference in E/// show they stop it.

tht's what everyone afraid of hehe...especially when their winNT also failed to live up to its claim as the most robust OS.

BTW, I suspect Ericsson is the company who introduce Prepaid system because the first company in Malaysia to introduce Pre-paid are DIGI...which partner is Swisscom back in 1997~2000 and both are using Ericsson network equipment. During that time, I recall most of the nokia phone didn't offer function to show call time left.

Ericsson is the company who proposed the two following std...MMS and GSM850 (For TDMA network migration)

Tht's why most MMS service are using Ericsson equipment and a lot of those company who sell Nokia pic or ringtone do use Ericsson solution.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 02:50:00
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WoeDee Posts: 149

I am amazed by the quality of the devices that Sony Ericsson is producing. I went from Nokia to Samsung, Back to Nokia and finally Sony Ericsson. The t68i is a great phone but the P800, OMG......the best thats out there for the time being. If you have the resources, do yourself a favour and pick up one of these puppies ASAP!
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Posted: 2003-02-04 05:09:00
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jplacson Posts: > 500

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On 2003-02-03 19:45, mariolouis wrote:
well.. it wouldn't be "phone of the year" if it does not stood up to it, now would it?


Well, just cuz Toyota sells more cars than Ferrari, doesn't mean a Toyota is BETTER than a Ferrari now does it? Difference is, Toyota doesn't price themselves in the same class as Ferrari...unlike Nokia.

WoeDee... welcome to Esato, and the 'hi-tech' world of SE!
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Posted: 2003-02-04 06:00:00
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brick Posts: 162

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On 2003-02-03 19:09, jplacson wrote:
@orange, first of all, those "features" were not invented by Nokia. Nokia has had NO contributions to the technology of mobile phone whatsoever. All they do is use existing technology, and most of the time, obsolete technology.

Ericsson has pioneered most GSM based (if not radio based) technologies, cuz that's what they do. Nokia made plastic boots up until 1992 I think.

Ericsson was one of the first to standardize tri-bad chips in their GSM phones, they pioneered & co-developed Li-Pol batteries which Nokia still has discover. /// also invented Bluetooth. They also had the unified accessory connector long before Nokia did. They were the first GSM phone with a camera attachment. They also pioneered a lot of the standards used in current 2/2.5 and 3G technologies, specifically the radio transmitters used in the phones base stations. SE is one of the first to successfully have a dual-mode GSM/3G celfone. /// also was one of the first to release (and also co-developed) GPRS systems.

Yup, that's what I read too. Ericsson, as a mobile communication company is responsible for most of the mobile technology out there. Nokia just adapts the technology in its own phones and sell them in a nice package. They end up making more out of it even though they probably have to pay patent. Ericsson earns patents to fuel its research and development, and Nokia earns more than thrice that to continue giving us ugly bright looking plastic covers.

Now tell us if there IS a reason why we tend to hate Nokia with passion.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 06:05:00
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orange Posts: 397

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On 2003-02-03 19:09, jplacson wrote:
@orange, first of all, those "features" were not invented by Nokia. Nokia has had NO contributions to the technology of mobile phone whatsoever. All they do is use existing technology, and most of the time, obsolete technology.


I guess you didn't read my previous post at all. I wasn't talking about what is invented by whom and who got it first in their products, but what they got NOW! Clear enough!?!?

And what you said in your post, I guess you don't know anything about DRM, COD or e-commerce. Could you tell me from what mobile vendor Nokia has adapted those technologies?
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:40:00
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brick Posts: 162

Well, e-wallet is so popular here in Asia Nokia doesn't even release the models which support e-wallet here!
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Posted: 2003-02-04 08:43:00
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orange Posts: 397

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On 2003-02-04 02:50, c96sthl wrote:
ynohtna

Tht's why most MMS service are using Ericsson equipment and a lot of those company who sell Nokia pic or ringtone do use Ericsson solution.


According to the latest figures, Nokia has 50 MMS deals and Ericsson has 47. Together they have about 70 % of the deals. So I don't quite get why you're saying "most MMS service are using Ericsson equipment".
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Posted: 2003-02-04 09:14:00
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brick Posts: 162

It's probably the 'behind-the-scene' network equipment and not the physical mobile phone units being sold to telcos to promote MMS. Nokia may be the king in the handset market, but telco network equipement and stuff is clearly more of Ericsson's playground than Nokia's.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 09:33:00
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orange Posts: 397

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On 2003-02-04 09:33, brick wrote:
It's probably the 'behind-the-scene' network equipment and not the physical mobile phone units being sold to telcos to promote MMS. Nokia may be the king in the handset market, but telco network equipement and stuff is clearly more of Ericsson's playground than Nokia's.


I wasn't talking about the terminals, but MMSC's (Multimedia Messaging Service Center). In the terminal side E/SE is not even close.
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Posted: 2003-02-04 09:45:00
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brick Posts: 162

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On 2003-02-04 09:45, orange wrote:
I wasn't talking about the terminals, but MMSC's (Multimedia Messaging Service Center). In the terminal side E/SE is not even close.



???

Don't know if we are talking about the same thing: http://www.ericsson.com/network_operators/mobilesystems/buildmain.asp

[ This Message was edited by: brick on 2003-02-04 08:53 ]
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Posted: 2003-02-04 09:49:00
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