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Erm... I'm not sure. Even my night recordings are shot with 29 fps. Perhaps turning on the video LED will do it for you?
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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:09:01
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I've been using the Satio now since Friday and, let's for now forget about the issues relating to the OS, and concentrate on the phone itself.

The camera is stunning, and video seems pretty amazing too. No complaints there.

The audio quality is also great, but there are some concerns.. some minor, some quite bad.

1) On the normal phones, SE has been quite unique in making sure that if you unplug the headphones (or unpair a headset, or the battery dies etc) then it stops and asks if you wish to continue playing through the internal speakers. On the SE built media player, they've left this out which is most annoying.

2) There's no compatibility with the Bluetooth watch. UIQ had this, and interestingly - S60 has third party drivers (unofficial) so it's perfectly possible. Okay, so the watches aren't best sellers but for a flagship model, it's an oversight.

3) When dialling, SE has left off the letters on the on-screen keypad. Samsung figured this out with its recent I8910 HD update.

4) Speed; We have the same processor as the I8910 HD, the iPhone 3GS (S for speed!) and the Palm Pre, so why is the music stuttering when I am doing other things? And when I tried to watch a film downloaded from the PlayNow Movies site, it was cutting out and pausing all the time because I had Gravity running in the background.

It is my belief that the SE software running on top (the home screen) is the cause of all of this. I will shortly try turning it off and using the standard S60 screen, but losing all of the shortcut icons and buttons is what makes the Satio better than the competition. It's not quite HTC's TouchFLO, but still pretty impressive - except it looks buggy and SLOOOOW.

5) No headphone socket. Come on, the W995 had one! I know Idou was in development from about the same time (maybe even earlier) but that does beg the question - what's the Aino's excuse?

6) RoadSync won't work properly with Google, and there's an update on the RoadSync website. After registering online, using the serial number attached to the Satio's copy, I am told that the update isn't available to me. Presumably this means SE must pay/approve the update. I am guessing that this will be the case with all of the other pre-installed applications. If I want the latest version with bug fixes, I've got to pay.

7) A PDF viewer is pretty standard these days. Am I really expected to pay for the ability to open a PDF after 14 days? No seriously?

Back to the video player; When you quit and go back later, it remembers where you left off (Yay) but it sometimes gives an error on playback which means it goes back to the start. I also have my suspicions that if you reboot, and the player re-loads, it also loses all the bookmarked positions. Again, looks like I've found another bug.

My conclusion is that the Satio has shipped with a desperate need for a firmware update, and I'm looking at SE's own software as a reason for the problems.

But, that camera is pure sex..

I'm in the process of trying to do a full review, but it's like a rollercoaster ride!

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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:11:38
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jmcomms how's the battery life ?
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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:16:15
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Strange, the symbian guru reviewer said she could have up to 15 apps (including gravity) running without any slowdowns.

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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:18:39
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S60 5th > SF^2

There's a very relevant discussion of this on the latest All About Symbian podcast All About Symbian Insight 90 @ 23'51".

Quick summary - No, S60 5th edition phones will not have SF^2 back-ported to them in all probabliity. However they may well have many of the features back-ported and included in Firmware updates. The new firmaware V2.0 due for the N97 (and which the N97 mini will have at launch) is apparently very nearly the same as SF^2. So Satio/ SE purchasers have to hope that SE keep on top of their Firmaware upgrades (a somewhat patchy record).
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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:23:00
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Battery is poor, but I am betting this being to do with the SE software too. When I disable it and give it a day or two on test without, I'll know if it's the hardware or software.

Gravity is an excellent app so I am pretty sure that isn't to blame, and I don't always keep it running anyway.

Now, as for having loads of apps running with no slow down.. the odd thing is that it seems to stutter along - and this is visible by music cutting out, video going blank/restarting or the touchscreen not responding to input for a while (remember when the K850 display did this on early firmware? People thought it was the screen but when they fixed the software, it was 100% responsive).

Either the other reviewer wasn't running the SE stuff, had a different firmware (but I am on the latest) or didn't really test it out that thoroughly?
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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:26:00
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Does anyone know how to check the sim lock status of the Satio?

Or if the Vodafone ones come unlocked?

Thanks


Martin
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Posted: 2009-10-13 17:59:59
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Can anyone who has a retail unit please relate to what jmcomms said?


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Posted: 2009-10-13 18:06:26
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anyone with a retail unit-whats the camera lens sliding cover like-is it solid or loose and wobbley?
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Posted: 2009-10-13 20:09:27
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i've had the retail version now since release on friday and i can safely say i've been listening to music and using gravity with no stuttering or cut outs...

Also the camera lens cover is solid for now and has a nice spring to it. After using the N97 for a few months i can safely say that this is what the N97 should of been from the beginnning!!!

Oh an before using the phone i have installed Handy Taskman as its the best task manager for symbian and also installed. i also switched off vodafone standby screen and switched to the finger use standby.

J.
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Posted: 2009-10-13 21:11:47
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