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's problem is that they have way too many models. This may give the impression of options and choice, but it also drains resources for R&D, support, and economic manufacturing.

should really concentrate on the android line, and maybe have 2 non android phones, Like the the elm and hazel.
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Posted: 2011-01-11 02:52:04
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I really wonder does anyone have rumor of any new SE accessories for 2011
lately...SE's seem kinda lack the innovation for their accessories. Now it seem Motorola have more interesting stuff
hopefully they are just holding back for MWC 2011.
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Posted: 2011-01-11 04:56:17
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I really wonder does anyone have rumor of any new SE accessories for 2011
yeah, i was hoping for an update to their MW600 stereo bluetooth headphones at CES. i really wanted to get those but heard the volume slider wasn't too responsive.
i guess we'll see at MWC next month.
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Posted: 2011-01-11 08:43:13
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On 2011-01-11 02:52:04, jplacson wrote:

's problem is that they have way too many models. This may give the impression of options and choice, but it also drains resources for R&D, support, and economic manufacturing.
Well the only models we see leaking are running on Android. That must tell us something.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2011-01-11 09:10 ]
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Posted: 2011-01-11 09:04:27
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On 2011-01-11 02:52:04, jplacson wrote:

's problem is that they have way too many models. This may give the impression of options and choice, but it also drains resources for R&D, support, and economic manufacturing.

should really concentrate on the android line, and maybe have 2 non android phones, Like the the elm and hazel.
Not really, last years Android range of devices were all (disappointingly) clones of each other on the software side of things, 10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro/X8/Yendo were all the same. Even the Yendo that isn't Android was a clone of the X10 Mini shell just without android.
Satio and Vivaz ranges are all but gone now but again clones of each other.
Elm, Hazel and Spiro were pretty much 2008/2009 inspired models as they didn't bring anything new either.
Once each shell for each platform is created it wouldn't cost any where near as much, once the X10 was made it was easy going for SE as they could implement it on 3 other phones with some little tweaks here and there.
It's pretty obvious SE's R&D department is lacking innovation, even the Arc is all Marketing with little substance.
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Posted: 2011-01-11 18:09:24
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On 2011-01-11 18:09:24, 10123 wrote:
Not really, last years Android range of devices were all (disappointingly) clones of each other on the software side of things, 10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro/X8/Yendo were all the same. Even the Yendo that isn't Android was a clone of the X10 Mini shell just without android.
Satio and Vivaz ranges are all but gone now but again clones of each other.
Elm, Hazel and Spiro were pretty much 2008/2009 inspired models as they didn't bring anything new either.
Once each shell for each platform is created it wouldn't cost any where near as much, once the X10 was made it was easy going for SE as they could implement it on 3 other phones with some little tweaks here and there.
It's pretty obvious SE's R&D department is lacking innovation, even the Arc is all Marketing with little substance.
[ This Message was edited by: 10123 on 2011-01-11 17:12 ]
1. Phones of the same manufacturer are supposed to be different on the software level, is that what you are saying?There should be no unified look to the software? Well I guess all companies are guilty then; HTC Smart having Sense like the Androids. But oh sorry Motorola is the example of what to follow, they can't decide how heavily to skin each device so each one is different.
2. All symbians were clones just like all androids
3. You are surprised that the dumbphones are mid to low end? End isn't every low or mid end based on last year's high end more or less? And really do you see any specs that can be bumped upward and sell at that high price?
4. I'm pretty sure the X10 minis had unique UI elements not in the X10.
5. What is wrong with the arc? It seams like an extremely well designed upgrade to the X10. I don't see the marketing part in it almost everything was upgraded. Heck if it comes out in Q1 like they said it will be the second phone with Gingerbread after the Nexus S
6. And finally nice to say their R&D is lacking creativity based on only the first phone of the 2011 line up. They reworked the skin to make way for easier updates. They have a small project called the PS phone which only has one engineer with a couple interns working on it(its small remember). But yeah totally lacking creativity
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Posted: 2011-01-11 19:52:26
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Well said mustafabay. Last year's X10 range all had a similar 'look' because that's how a company differentiates itself and build up a brand identity.
Four different phones sharing an operating system all having different designs? It's hardly what you'd call cloning.
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Posted: 2011-01-11 20:02:58
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Within the core. . Test scores. .

CPU 1G。。
XPERIA PLAY 1688。。Nexus S 1570..XPERIA PLAY Neocore 3D 57.8FPS。NEXUS S Neocore 3D 55.7FPS。。
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Posted: 2011-01-12 09:24:19
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Still the scores are much lower than stock HTC Desire HD. I wonder why, even when the processor is the same. I know its a pre release unit but it should be around 1750 + atleast.
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Posted: 2011-01-12 10:15:21
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I find it a bit strange to say the least, to watch the xperia play being tortured/dismantled/showed off everywhere over the web, for more than a month, and neither Sony Ericsson nor Sony or whatever company declaring paternity rights...or anything at all.
As far as I remember, I haven't seen any SE phone being "exposed" in this manner, before it being announced.
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Posted: 2011-01-12 17:43:55
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