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Posted: 2007-06-13 11:08:38
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I think it is quite safe to say P1i will not sell in volume like N95. P1i would be very lucky if it can achieve 10% of N95 sales volume. Given the sky-high price and peculiar format of P1i, it will sell to a niche market only.
People who buy P1i buy it because of specific preferences (like touchscreen or because it is a SE). For other more neutral buyers, most would go for N95 just by comparing side-by-side spec sheets.
iPhone is in the same boat as P1i (i.e. a niche device) but it will do better than P1i because of the hype. In terms of spec iPhone (like P1i) lose a lot to N95. And we have only seen some mock up on iPhone supposely very friendly but simplistic UI. It is still yet to be proven in practice that it is as user friendly as a keypad (not forgetting that one of major use of a phone is to send text messages - you cant never do as easy using a ts).
Buy the iPhone for the hype. Buy the P1i (for the touchscreen or SE label). If you are not in these 2 categories buying the N95 is the most pragmatic choice you can made.
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Posted: 2007-06-13 11:16:55
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@wabre,
The N95 costs the same amount as the P1 and has way more features. If you look back in this thread a page or so, you will see my post where I showed the P1 on sale and its selling price. Also you have to remember, SE is known for getting your money and then delivering very little. Not to mention that customer service is almost non-existent.
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Posted: 2007-06-13 11:19:21
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Hello mib1800 my friend.
One small correction. The P1 and the N95 are very close to the same price. Here in some stores the N95 sells for a few Euro (5) cheaper than the P1, however as you know the N95 will keep its value longer.
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Posted: 2007-06-13 11:29:10
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On 2007-06-13 11:19:21, sapporobaby wrote:
@wabre,
The N95 costs the same amount as the P1 and has way more features. If you look back in this thread a page or so, you will see my post where I showed the P1 on sale and its selling price. Also you have to remember, SE is known for getting your money and then delivering very little. Not to mention that customer service is almost non-existent.
...oh, but i know that very well...unfortunately i made the wrong choice by buying the P990i. never in my life i was in the strange situation that i hated a phone i had so much. for ME it's just plain crap. even a faulty N95 would suit better. and you are absolutely right: high price and no value, support is non-existent and if, they just waste your time. so...in the end, i would not consider a P1i anymore.
[ This Message was edited by: wabre on 2007-06-13 11:12 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-13 12:11:40
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Guys I'm going to have to wade in to this debate.
The way I see it is as simple as simple can get.
What we are all talking about here are MOBILE PHONES. Right?
The MAIN point of a mobile phone is to make and receive phone calls. Sned and receive texts. And sometimes, chuck in the odd email or 2!
Some of the phones these days are trying to out smart others. In doing so they are forgeting the above point I made. So we are getting N95's with funky GPS chucked in, but the ease of use and main PHONE functions have some-what been put on the wayside.
If we are talking about which phone is better and which is worse, I think we can fairly say that both the P990 and the N95 as PHONES are sh1te! I'm not gonna list all the things that are wrong with the N95 - I really am a little too busy right now, and to do so would take some time
My wife has an SE W880i - she got it for free, it's built perfectly - no creeks, no rattles, no bits falling off. It NEVER crashes. It's as easy to use as scratching ones bum. No high pitch sound from ear piece. simple as simple can get. My N95 on the other hand... well thats a whole different story!!!
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Posted: 2007-06-13 12:22:17
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i've never been keen on nokia and th N95 si no exception, trying to use a smart phone with no touchcreen so only the keypad is incredibly frustrating!!
yes it has wifi, and a nice big screen for the internet, but try using a keypad for that....... another massive porblem with the phone is the battery life, u have a phone which can watch videos, playe music surf the net and only has a standby time of like 2 days?? not impressed
the p1 keypad is going to be a pain as well, i tried the m600i keypad in the SE shop in london, and its a really weird keypad, i thought it would be like press the button twice for the second letter (e.g. once for Q twice for W) but infact the button rocks so if i press the left side i get Q and the right side i get W. i tried typing a short txt and i spent more time correcting typos. admittedly u prob will get used to it after a while, but i really disliked the keypad and put me off wanted to buy the p1i
and as for the iphone, it has a non-removable battery, typical of apple to make a nice sleek product and then cripple it in a massive way. yes the iphone is their first phone so there are worries, my one is mainly coz ipods have quite short battery life compared to other manufacturers, and i can;t imagine the iphone's battery life being that long especially since it's empahsis is for you to watch videos and lsiten to music too. and u can;t take a spare battery with u either.
personally the standby time matters a lot, i hate having to recharge my phone every couple of days. and i hate having my phone die on me half way through a day with no way of recharging it. thats why i would prefer to keep my media and phone devices seperate as listening to music drains a lot of the battery and it would annoy me if i had the iphone and battery died while listening to msuic so i have no music or phone, or not ebing able to listen to music when the battery is low just so i can keep the phone on, not to mention watchign videos will drain the battery even faster. even the ipod videos now only have a bout 3 hrs battery for watchign videos...
. the iphone is very sleek and appealing but i think if i do get it i may end up using it just as my media device and get the k850i as my main phone.
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Posted: 2007-06-13 12:40:16
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scouser_75
So we are getting N95's with funky GPS chucked in, but the ease of use and main PHONE functions have some-what been put on the wayside.
You just dont make sense. In what way a GPS degrade ease of use of phone main functions? S60 is as easy to use as a typical non-smartphone and way easier to use than UIQ3 like P1i.
As a phone, N95 keypad is much more comfortable to use than the smallish W880 or the K810 keypad and I would say much better input device than the weird P1i keypad. N95 big screen is a plus in enhancing overall usability. In term of size, N95 is smaller than K800/810 and slightly more in weight. And UI speed of N95 is very fast.
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Posted: 2007-06-13 13:17:21
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On 2007-06-13 13:17:21, mib1800 wrote:
scouser_75
What I meant was the companies are thinking about more about how much stuff they can chuck in to a device than thinking about some of the key issues of a device. I dont mean that by having GPS it makes the phone more difficult to use!!
As for the keypad thing - dude, think about it logically - someone who has large fingers may find the W880i key pad a little difficult to use. But my wife, who has petite fingers, finds the keys perfect... as do I to be honest. Its a simple matter of ergonomics!
The screen size issue - again, horses for courses!!!! Simple as!!!!!!!
Also, for all those people who complain about battery life - if you dont want to drain the battery don't use certain functions (video player, music player, gps etc) Its as simple as that. It's like buying a 4X4 car, and then complaining about the amount of petrol you use!!!!!!
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Posted: 2007-06-13 13:26:03
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What I meant was the companies are thinking about more about how much stuff they can chuck in to a device than thinking about some of the key issues of a device
What key issues are you talking about?
I, for one dont mind manufacturer chucking stuff into phone as long as it is usable and stable (like N95). I dont use Office doc that much but knowing that this capability is there when I need it give me the sense of satisfaction. Same with GPS. But something like WIFI is very essential nowadays.
someone who has large fingers may find the W880i key pad a little difficult to use. But my wife, who has petite fingers, finds the keys perfect... as do I to be honest. Its a simple matter of ergonomics!
In general, are you saying W880 keypad is as easy to use as N95?? Seriously
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Posted: 2007-06-13 14:00:15
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