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There is also another difference. Try selling a P990 to anyone versus selling the N95 1. There would be a whole difference. You would practically have to give away the P990.
Heck I had my p990 listed late last year on eBay with a 4GB card,DS-970,extra battery,leather case,extra chargers,screen protectors,card reader and tons of applications and I could not get it sold for 120GBP.
It was actually costing me more to try to sell on eBay because of listing fees and nobody wanting to pay that price for it.
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Posted: 2008-03-11 16:44:02
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Hi all,
Actually you don't need to look anywhere near as far back as that look at the newly realeased W960 Flagship Walkman Smart Phone which i believe is approx £450-£480 in the shops alreday selling on this forum for around £220-£240.
That to any one is huge drop and very quickly whilst if you buy and keep your devcie for it's life cycle it makes very little difference if you like to change your devcies frequently buying a SE new makes this an expensive experience although buying shortly after release makes some of them a relative bargain assuming of course you are not buying it new retail.
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Posted: 2008-03-11 17:07:54
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@NightBlade
I don't think that the W980i is the successor of W900i at all!
Why?
A successor should have better aspects of nearly every Aspects and still the same in an aspect or 2 at least. From what i see the W980i has 8 GB internal memory which is good, but no external memory to play with (and that's ok because 8 GB of internal memory is more then enough and will drop the price of the phone for not having aan external card slot), 3.2 MP Camera (although without auto-focus and no flash) that's not so bad, but it's a Flip phone and that's a reason not to be a natural successor.
(imo a successor should have the same form factor and much more updated specifications, and W980i got nearly good specifications but could've been better).
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Posted: 2008-03-11 23:36:55
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the swivel is dead, the market research indicated that the swivel only had a small support base and I don't see why SE should keep it just to support a few diehard swivel fans.. W900 was a one off model (based roughly on S700, which itself was a one off), there is no successor.
It's easy for you to say it was a bad decision of SE to drop the swivel, but you aren't responsible for SE's bottom line. A manufacturer has to sell a certain amount of handsets before they break even, so obviously SE determined that it would cost them more to develop new swivel phones than they will make back in sales.
Infact I wouldn't be surprised if W900 didn't actually turn a profit. It was a successful model from a marketing point of view - it was a showcase phone and showed the market at the time what SE was capable of, but I don't think it was every intended to be a long running formfactor. I also think they were feeling the waters for swivel support, and found the waters too shallow to justify continuing the swivel formfactor.
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Posted: 2008-03-12 00:53:29
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Someone can ask Mr. Komiyama why is it that the Japanese market SE always gets a better quality and design phones than places outside Japan? ??? No matter what we are getting now or even in the future the Japanese SE are always better. Why can't mobile phones ever matches the quality and designs of the Japanese. If you ever owned 903SH, 904SH, 705SH ....etc you will know.
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Posted: 2008-03-12 07:27:51
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Dollars is the answer. Or more correctly, YEN
The japs pay a lot more for this kind of thing than we do in the west.
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Posted: 2008-03-13 02:37:37
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not really, their package plans are always quite attractive or rather affordable plus they will give lots of free gifts, what the telco really earn in Japan are those downloads and internet charges because the Japanese uses a lot of internet through their mobile. They can do a lot of things using their mobile. From banking to ordering to blogging to shopping to email to take train to buy things via scanning their phones...etc......which I feel it is fair enough to charge what we used.
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Posted: 2008-03-13 05:17:33
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yes but as a whole there is more demand in japan for mobile internet services. More demand = more money = more services = better hardware.
Due to population density in Japan there is more buck available for carriers per square km of internet coverage. So fast mobile internet is more common and subsequently better handsets are available than in less population dense parts of the world.
In Australia for example, we still lag behind Europe in mobile broadband prices, due to our lower population density.
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Posted: 2008-03-13 06:09:33
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Let's not forget that SE has openly stated that they only care about what operators think. As long as the operators are happy with the current quality of SE devices, that is exactly what we will keep getting, nothing more.
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Posted: 2008-03-14 11:03:29
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so u mean, that for se customers dont count? when stated this se actually and where?
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Posted: 2008-03-14 23:26:42
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