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Posted: 2005-03-10 15:26:58
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@phsychomantis
SE do not pay any licence fees to Nokia. UIQ is not owned by Nokia and neither is Symbian. Looking at the ownership of Symbian, Nokia is the largest owner. But have not own majority. All manufacturers (Nokia, SE, Samsung etc.) using Symbian pay licence fees to Symbian (not Nokia) and the amount is equal for everybody.
http://www.symbian.com/about/ownership.html
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2005-03-10 14:40 ]
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Posted: 2005-03-10 15:38:24
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mib1800 those phones you mention all come up short compared to K750 and W800.
Cameras, memory, and abundance of features all better in those two SE models.
The only thing you mention that I have to concede is Nokia have a better range of EDGE and 3G handsets. This board has already conceded that SE don't have as many handsets in each class as Nokia, so it would be expected that they don't have a huge choice. I suspect SE are waiting for carriers to settle on a broadband technology, before they commit to giving all their phones broadband.
I suspect within 6 months we'll start to see broadband phones (edge, 3G, or both depending on the market for broadband) coming from SE in greater numbers.
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Posted: 2005-03-10 15:42:02
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I would love to see series 60 by SE...It would rule.... sadly i don't think we ever will...
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Posted: 2005-03-10 15:45:18
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@mib1800
"if P910 is so good, then explain to me why there are 15 times more people stepping into a Nokia smartphone than a SE's. (statistically Nokia sells 5 times more phones than SE's)"
Ditto batesie
Nokia have a greater proportion of smart phones in their line up, and also have a greater marketshare, so it's obvious that they will sell more smart phones.
This only means they have a Woolworths approach (high volume low profit margin) to selling phones, it doesn't mean they are more advanced than SE.
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Posted: 2005-03-10 15:52:36
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@mib1800
Of ourse Nokia are selling more handsets, they have a bigger market share than SE! That's like asking why McDonalds sells more food than the London Ritz!
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-03-10 15:20 ]
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Posted: 2005-03-10 15:58:14
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Nokia is maybe delivers more phones, but SE delivers less phones but with more quality (sorry for my bad english
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Posted: 2005-03-10 16:20:26
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@max_wedge
If u look at it that way then K750/W800 also comes out short compared to models i mentioned.
how do you measure "advanced"? Is P910 more advanced compared to a O2 XDA mini? absolutely no. Is P910 advanced compared to Nokia 6600. Sure. Is P910 more advanced than 6630? I doubt so.
You can use your own perspective to define "advanced". but if your advanced technology is not widely accepted by the buying public, then it is still "unrealised" advanced technology.
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Posted: 2005-03-10 16:20:47
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On 2005-03-10 15:58:14, scotsboyuk wrote:
@mib1800
Of ourse Nokia are selling more handsets, they have a bigger market share than SE! That's like asking why McDonalds sells more food than the London Ritz!
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-03-10 15:20 ]
this is not the point in discussion. issue is whether K750i/W800 is so revolutionary that it will elevates SE to top-notch.
to me K750/W800 is so rudimentary that it does not even come close to something like 6680/6630/XphoneII/MotoE680.
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Posted: 2005-03-10 16:27:39
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@mib1800
That is specious reasoning at best. Just because technology is not adopted by the majority of the population does not make it any less advanced e.g. is the space shuttle less advanced because only a handful of people have ever travelled in one?
SE produce high quality products, which do not seel in the same volumes as Nokia products. It is simple a question of market share, one only has to look at any industry in the world to see that the best products are not always the products that sell the most.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-03-10 15:59 ]
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Posted: 2005-03-10 16:29:02
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