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snoFlake Posts: 119

Seems like SE got game once more.

Suddenly we all love Eldar here don't we.

Like I said over last couple years he doesn't really make stuff up sometimes can be a bit harsh on one point or another and obviously like any source dealing in speculation and unreleased devices sometimes he will get it wrong but on the whole his track record is pretty damn good.

He likes the new Halon cos it makes sense in my view, it's got good/great features properly implemented and an up to date OS and looks like (fingers X'd) it's going to be released in a timely fashion and as importantly at a price to feature ratio that makes it a very strong competitor. Also looks not bad (at least different to rest of Android me-too devices - actually quite like Moto Defy for same reasons).

Good luck SE looks like they've taken the lessons on board and have made a decent effort, now they stand some chance of progress - it will be tough of course with the massively increased competition in this area (if only they hadn't squandered 2006-2009 they really could have been on top, but nature of the beast you snooze you lose.). Quick last point the noises being made by the board about their past and recognition of where problems have occurred was very encouraging, to fix something first you have to acknowledge there is a problem (something Nokia are in denial about at the moment). Funnily enough in some ways this might be more comfortable ground for Sony as a Premium Wintel PC maker they must be familiar with glitzy hardware with a few software enhancements on top without having to manage the OS/UI something SE proved completely incapable of.

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Posted: 2011-01-20 22:53:30
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goldenface Posts: > 500


On 2011-01-20 22:53:30, snoFlake wrote:
Seems like SE got game once more.

Suddenly we all love Eldar here don't we.



Errrm, no offence but how did you work that one out?
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Posted: 2011-01-20 23:02:52
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snoFlake Posts: 119

Well the Mobile-Review article is being given credence and is being quoted here giving it traction rather than the normal berating of Eldar and "what does he know he's always biased against SE". You should hear what the Nokia fanbois have to say about hi these days, well suffice to say he's probably not expecting Birthday Presents from AAS.
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Posted: 2011-01-20 23:17:07
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motvikt Posts: > 500


On 2011-01-20 23:17:07, snoFlake wrote:
Well the Mobile-Review article is being given credence and is being quoted here giving it traction rather than the normal berating of Eldar and "what does he know he's always biased against SE". You should hear what the Nokia fanbois have to say about hi these days, well suffice to say he's probably not expecting Birthday Presents from AAS.


Rather its like "he hates SE even its a pretty good device, when he likes it it must be super"
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Posted: 2011-01-20 23:27:20
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goldenface Posts: > 500

Understood snoFlake

Some posters on here agree with him and some don't and some are indifferent, just like they are on other forums. Well may be a few more fanboys than most )

Regardless, it's a bit far fetched to imagine that fanboys of all persuasions will automatically fall to their knees and love Eldar again because of one positive preview of a prototype, wouldn't you think?


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Posted: 2011-01-20 23:39:01
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NightBlade Posts: > 500

Has anyone even bothered checking that the preview wasn't even written by Eldar?
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Posted: 2011-01-20 23:54:29
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Phoner Posts: > 500

@NightBlade It is Eldar. No questions about that. And the initials ME and EM are not just a coincidence...
[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2011-01-20 23:07 ]

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Posted: 2011-01-21 00:06:18
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MyP910 Posts: > 500

Now...it is hard to choose...

1. I like Arc for its design, nice shape, bigger screen, bravia engine, LED backlighting...... but mainly for the looks.

2. Hallon has front camera and cheaper price....

Is Hallon using LED backlighting ?


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Posted: 2011-01-21 01:52:44
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FMW300 Posts: 279

I really don't understand. How can these two devices be in completely different price brackets, yet they have exactly the same features, except one has a smaller screen plus a front camera? It doesn't take a genius to figure out Hallon is the better deal here. Isn't cannibalising their own product sales with closely overlapping products like these?
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Posted: 2011-01-21 02:02:42
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rizzamarv Posts: 132

Why don't we all just wait and see what the market prices in the end are. maybe the price difference will only be 100Euros in the end, which would also make much more sense to me....

After the crazy leak fest which has been going on for the past months now I wonder if SE has anything at MWC which will surprise us (except the confirmation of specs). Suspect we will see the following devices:

Xperia Play (Plasystation phone)
Hallon
Mini Successor
Mini with Keyboard ???

Basically considering the leaks we have seen the announcement of these device is inevitable.

But I want something which has not been leaked....
Please SE gives a surprise
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Posted: 2011-01-21 02:29:01
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