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motvikt Posts: > 500


On 2011-01-21 02:02:42, FMW300i wrote:
I really don't understand. How can these two devices be in completely different price brackets, yet they have exactly the same features, except one has a smaller screen plus a front camera? It doesn't take a genius to figure out Hallon is the better deal here. Isn't cannibalising their own product sales with closely overlapping products like these?



Like Goldenface said, I dont think hallon have exmor and bravia. That would make NO sense at all. Our dear Eldar must have got that part wrong
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Posted: 2011-01-21 02:31:00
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avmaxfan Posts: 281


On 2011-01-21 02:31:00, motvikt wrote:

On 2011-01-21 02:02:42, FMW300i wrote:
I really don't understand. How can these two devices be in completely different price brackets, yet they have exactly the same features, except one has a smaller screen plus a front camera? It doesn't take a genius to figure out Hallon is the better deal here. Isn't cannibalising their own product sales with closely overlapping products like these?



Like Goldenface said, I dont think hallon have exmor and bravia. That would make NO sense at all. Our dear Eldar must have got that part wrong


I can 100% confirm that Hallon has Bravia engine. EXMOR I am not sure
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Posted: 2011-01-21 05:36:40
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smclion102 Posts: > 500


On 2011-01-21 05:36:40, avmaxfan wrote:

On 2011-01-21 02:31:00, motvikt wrote:

On 2011-01-21 02:02:42, FMW300i wrote:
I really don't understand. How can these two devices be in completely different price brackets, yet they have exactly the same features, except one has a smaller screen plus a front camera? It doesn't take a genius to figure out Hallon is the better deal here. Isn't cannibalising their own product sales with closely overlapping products like these?



Like Goldenface said, I dont think hallon have exmor and bravia. That would make NO sense at all. Our dear Eldar must have got that part wrong


I can 100% confirm that Hallon has Bravia engine. EXMOR I am not sure


+1
I guess we will see all the 2011 phones with Bravia Engine no more regular TFT..
How much do u think a regular 8.1mp will cost against 8.1 Exmor ?? i dont think it will be very big difference. Am guessing This Hallon also Has Exmor.
More over Hallon has Front facing Cam[which is suppose to be better than others]
But we see such huge difference in COST this doesnt make sense..we are missing something..
In ARC forum I read that UK ARC will get 32GB Card + Mini HDMI cable in the BOX maybe cause of this there is cost difference + extra for the sexy Design..

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Posted: 2011-01-21 06:53:08
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argiriano Posts: 305


On 2011-01-21 02:31:00, motvikt wrote:

Like Goldenface said, I dont think hallon have exmor and bravia. That would make NO sense at all. Our dear Eldar must have got that part wrong

When I look at the pictures with screen turned off it looks more like X10 one rather then Arcs one... not being that black, but that may be just from the pictures.
Also the back cover has two bulbs at the top and bottom edges which look kinda strange but apart from that this phone is a real beast and if the price range will be around 350euro it`s going to be bestseller for sure.
Damn this phone already make our choice tough between Hallon and Arc!
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Posted: 2011-01-21 07:01:57
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avmaxfan Posts: 281

The Arc's biggest competitor yet will be unveiled Feb 13th in Barcelona. (Flagship vs Flagship not hardware) Samsung Galaxy S2. It seems to have followed the same design philosophy as Arc Less than 9mm thick

4.3 inch high res Super AMOLED 2 screen. Ofcourse rest of it there is no comparison It will feature the most powerful dual core platform - Samsung Orion. Only the ST Ericsson U8500 equals it. Tegra 2/TI OMAP4/Snapdragon dual core are all inferior.
ITs got the MALI 400 QUAD CORE GPU
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-01-21 07:05 ]

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Posted: 2011-01-21 07:40:12
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io_bg Posts: 326


On 2011-01-21 07:40:12, avmaxfan wrote:
The Arc's biggest competitor yet will be unveiled Feb 13th in Barcelona. (Flagship vs Flagship not hardware) Samsung Galaxy S2. It seems to have followed the same design philosophy as Arc Less than 9mm thick

4.3 inch high res Super AMOLED 2 screen. Ofcourse rest of it there is no comparison It will feature the most powerful dual core platform - Samsung Orion. Only the ST Ericsson U8500 equals it. Tegra 2/TI OMAP4/Snapdragon dual core are all inferior.
ITs got the MALI 400 QUAD CORE GPU
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-01-21 07:05 ]


I can bet my a** it won't be sexier than Arc
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Posted: 2011-01-21 09:06:08
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KU Posts: 207


On 2011-01-21 07:40:12, avmaxfan wrote:
The Arc's biggest competitor yet will be unveiled Feb 13th in Barcelona. (Flagship vs Flagship not hardware) Samsung Galaxy S2. It seems to have followed the same design philosophy as Arc Less than 9mm thick

4.3 inch high res Super AMOLED 2 screen. Ofcourse rest of it there is no comparison It will feature the most powerful dual core platform - Samsung Orion. Only the ST Ericsson U8500 equals it. Tegra 2/TI OMAP4/Snapdragon dual core are all inferior.
ITs got the MALI 400 QUAD CORE GPU
[ This Message was edited by: avmaxfan on 2011-01-21 07:05 ]


Super Amoled plus dear. Quadcore what about the battery life? Can i have the source please ?
Edit: hallon remind me of my good old K300.
[ This Message was edited by: KU on 2011-01-21 08:52 ]

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Posted: 2011-01-21 09:14:19
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rikken Posts: > 500

Maybe the difference in price between Hallon and Arc is that they aim at different group of customers ? Those who want and can afford a flagship buys the Arc, and those on a lower budget buys the Hallon ? It that way SE ensure more customers. . . . . maybe
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Posted: 2011-01-21 10:34:52
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justus333 Posts: 163

If they think, thatīs the way to ensure more costumers they are mistaken. I want the Arc but to pay 200.- just for design and bigger screen is ludicrous and cant be serious!

But as we all know SE falls for every possible stupidity!
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Posted: 2011-01-21 11:00:00
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se_dude Posts: > 500

Err it will be using a SGX543/3 and not the Mali 400.
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Posted: 2011-01-21 11:03:10
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