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amagab Posts: > 500

A: Israel had nuclear weapons before the nuclear ban treaty was adopted by the UN General Assembly.


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Posted: 2003-04-15 01:11:00
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mobility Posts: 18

Iraq, Syria, and N. Korea has not yet signed that treaty. Goes to show what intentions they had/have.


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Posted: 2003-04-15 01:16:00
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Yoeppie Posts: 257

(Y isnt the US going after Israel and its WMD ?) A: cause the US has suplied 90% of it 2 Israel and the other 10% they have stolen from the US ........ This message was posted from a WAP device
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Posted: 2003-04-15 01:19:00
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nyk_2702 Posts: 96

Again, I ask.. Y does the US supply Israel/Allow it to hav WMD..

I dont think any1 shud hav WMD, but who is to judge who shud/shudnt hav them ?

The US only helps countries wen it suits, then they try make up for it by invading..

Who created and armed Bin Laden ?
Who created and armed Saddam ?
Who supplies Israel with more aid to help in its demolition of palestinian hoems ?
Who threatens World Peace, with illegal invasions, continouosly stupid remarks that create more hatred ?


Just look at its support for rogue states that are its 'Allies', for 18 yrs Israel defied the UN by staying in LEbanese areas, and would not withdraw until they wer defeated..
Israel continues to violate Human rights laws in Palestine, and continues to oppress the Palestinian people, again the US does nothing

Lebanese-Israeli war (Did not even attempt to pressure Israel into ending war)
Iran-Iraq war (at the time of conflict Iraq was a US ally)(Supplied Iraq with weapons to atempt to get rid of threat of increasing Anti-US feeling in Iran)



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Posted: 2003-04-15 01:38:00
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amagab Posts: > 500

Well, you choose friends by having mutual political interests. Friends and enemies change with time. Friends are no longer friends when political interests clashes or go against each other. Yes, the US supported Bin Laden in the Afghan fight against Soviet Union...I probably would have done that too...but Bin Laden obviously changed his political goals when the Soviet Union pulled out of Afghanistan.

Why not go after Israel? You obviously didn't read my earlier post. There was a treaty signed by most countries in 1996 banning nuclear testing. Israel, as well as other countries had nuclear weapons before this treaty. Therefore, US is not going after these countries. Iraq, Syria, and N. Korea has been trying to create nuclear weapons AFTER the UN adopted this treaty. That is why the US has been putting pressure on these nations.

I do agree that the US are to lenient with Israel....but you have to realize that a huge part of the US population are Jews and that influences US foreign policy...just as the huge population of Arabs in France influences Chirac's foreign policy.

Arafat is doing nothing to achieve peace. A leadership change a very important part in the Israel-Palestine peace process.





[ This Message was edited by: amagab on 2003-04-15 01:13 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-15 02:09:00
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diggy Posts: 42

Nyk, you remind of the Iraq information minister. This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2003-04-15 03:18:00
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dave_uk Posts: > 500

Isn't it interesting that the pro-Israel/pro-US/anti-Arab militants points of view are balanced, intelligent, well-reasoned and informed, backed up by accurate information.

Whereas the flip side is argued by those who, for the most part, have no idea what they are talking about and merely sound like mouthpieces for some Anti-US fundamentalist dictator, looking to justify the unjustifiable and always using the, "well look at Israel" argument.

Bit like a microcosm of the world at the moment.....
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Posted: 2003-04-15 03:39:00
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nyk_2702 Posts: 96

@dave_uk

Wud u care to point out the 'great' arguments of the pro-israel/pro-US camps..

becoz i havent really seen anything that gud..

They all sound like an Israeli foreign minister, or an American spokesperson..

But then again many people in the US/UK cant think for themselves, and require information from Biased sources to tell them wat goes on..


Y dont U go and hav a look at wat israel/US hav done in countries such as Lebanon, and Palestine, and THEN tell me my arguments are just babble.
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Posted: 2003-04-15 10:55:00
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kapitan jackal Posts: > 500

@mobility- what intentions? every nation has the absolute right to defend themselves

99% percent! NOKOR will be next, but it will be a different war, not as easy in IRAQ, and the north korean are preaparing for this.

@nyk- i agree @looters and riots are all over iraq, if your a saddam supporter (your not carrying any weapon, your just a street parliamentarian) US forces will arrest you? you, an iraqi will be arrested by an american? in your own country? in your homeland?

something is not right here
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Posted: 2003-04-15 17:09:00
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d' fuhrer Posts: 163

99% percent! NOKOR will be next, but it will be a different war, not as easy in IRAQ, and the north korean are preaparing for this.
WHAT MAKES YOU SO SURE? THE NOKOR DICTATOR WAS THE ONE WHO SAID THAT HE WILL INVADE THE USA THEN HE CHANGED HIS MIND AND NOW WANTS TO TALK.
@nyk- i agree @looters and riots are all over iraq, if your a saddam supporter (your not carrying any weapon, your just a street parliamentarian) US forces will arrest you? you, an iraqi will be arrested by an american? in your own country? in your homeland?
SO THE GUYS ROBBING THE BANKS ARE SADDAM SUPPORTERS FOR EXAMPLE HUH. NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THE ARRESTING AND THE IRAQI POLICE FORCE IS UNDERMANNED. IF YOU SEE PEOPLE ROBBING A BANK WOULD YOU JUST STAND BY AND DO NOTHING?
something is not right here
YEAH, THE GUYS WITH CLOSED MINDS HERE

why don't we all WAIT AND SEE if the usa will occupy iraq? how, well if they did not leave even if there is an iraqi gov't, police, army etc. established. i will also go against this occupation. stop saying that this is what the usa will do to iraq it has not happened yet. are you guys psychics or something to know that this is what will happen?
bottomline NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
if you don't have something nice to say, don't say something nice.
DON'T TAKE MY NICK SERIOUSLY YOU DUMBASSES!

[ This Message was edited by: d' fuhrer on 2003-04-15 19:00 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-15 19:34:00
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