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I TOTALLY disagree regarding Ericson's reliability.I never bought an /// before it was taken over by SE exactly cuz they sucked big time:the menu was ankward,the screens tiny,the sw barely moved from one menu to the other(u can still see it in some cheaper SE) and the most important,everytime,the failure was deadly.In t28,r310 and such the antena amplifier(i think that was the 1) broke down leaving the phone useless.AND the prt was very expensive.That was Ericsson and it went bankrupt.Good.This happens with companies with uncompetitive products.
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Posted: 2005-08-27 20:54:11
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i just remembered that in january i got a nokia 6800 and i went through 4 of them, because the go to button froze the phone up entirely. the 6800 had been out for quite some time by then. so mabye the focus should be more on the companies that fail to resolve the issues that they have with there current phones, its called negligence.
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Posted: 2005-08-27 20:56:23
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Well my K750i just died on me today so i'm not best pleased. Thought I could fix it myself with the update service etc but it was not to be, the thing just has a life of it's own it even wrote and sent a text message (it didn't spell well though) by itself!.
First I tried to stop it going haywire by reflashing the firmware which did jack shit after spending ages getting the update thing to work with the phone like this it won't turn off!, just keeps switching on again whenever the cable is attached. So next I tried a firmware update with the recovery mode, that made it slightly more stable so I was able to get to the master reset menu which didn't do anything useful.
Now it's half comatose, screen whacks out on me every now and then, only half the buttons work, those that do don't take me where they are supposed to but hey at least it's not going off and having a party activating random functions like it was before!. I had to switch the bugger off earlier cause it rang voicemail, later I checked it and it had 99 up on screen, so I thought right battery get out of there!. Poor thing was probably trying to ring an ambulance!.
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Posted: 2005-08-27 22:58:58
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sorry to hear bout that. i have a brand new razor for sale.
but back on the subject.... i seriously have the WORST luck when it comes to phone. (since january i've had= moto v180, 4 nokia 6800, a nokia 7610 that never turned on, it was brand new, moto c650, treo 600, SE K700i, and a moto razor V3.) the only one that ever worked properly was the K700i.
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Posted: 2005-08-28 00:03:02
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roflmao @ Cloysterpete5!!! That sounds exactly like my 6600 just before it self-destructed using the built-in plastic explosive... I'm probably switching to an SE K750i within the next week, so hopefully i won't get one manufactured on a Monday when the guys at the factory are all hungover, as seems the case with your phone.
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Posted: 2005-08-28 02:57:39
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On mib1800 wrote: I think most of the time it is a tussle between "out to market first with bugs" or "fix bugs first and lose headstart". It is a pity that SE goes with the former. > > > > > Mib, On the contrary, number of Nokia models directly seems to be competing with China's population... THE NUMBER OF SE MODELS CAN BE COUNTED BY A KINDERGARDEN KID.. Besides what others have said, I can only say, SE took over a legacy thats really old and has survived with times. I agree with ScotsBoyUK, Nokias are plastic bricks lacking innovation. Which I hold higher (reason why I bought S7, despite it being a transitionary design). Also, read Ynohtna's post above. Though, here we aren't talking about ///, but am still a sucker for those babies ANY DAY. T10s onwards, past five years I've only had ///, SE for myself despite trying few other brands. Ericsson still are owners of many initial patented Telecom technologies... BtW~ the other related Sony/ SE critics thread I found is 102177
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Posted: 2005-08-28 03:44:28
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the main problem I've found with SE phones is the fit of the casing, expecially from the K700 on. Key presses are a bit clunky, case creaks and groans.
HOWEVER, that is not to say they are unreliable. My K700 case and keypad creaked and clicked it's whole life, but the phone itself is stable and reliable and never crashes. My own feeling is that the basic SE hardware is VERY good. Reliable, durable and well designed.
The two main areas of let down are: the cases and keypads are creaky, and the firmware is brought out without enough testing. Ultimately these issues leave consumer's feeling less confident in SE phones, so SE needs to address it as it makes it difficult for the real beauty of these phones to be evident.
So while other manufacturers may have similar or even poorer hardware reliability, because they "feel" nice (don't creak) and work out of the box without firmware updates (albeit with limited features compared to SE models) the perception is that they are more reliable (when they aren't)
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Posted: 2005-08-28 03:55:09
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Thats true Max..
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Posted: 2005-08-28 04:16:30
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@scotsboyuk
Quote:Not everyone is as clued up about mobiles as we are and what we may take for granted others may very well find difficult. ...
How many of these 'faults' are simple human error based on a lack of knowledge or incompetence?
Like u say majority of users are Joe Public. So the software needs to be as idiot-proof as possible and yet at the same time cater to more advance users. I think you know that it is much more difficult to design to cater to less-savvy users than advance users. Maybe SE has not done their homework in this aspect.
Of course, the basic telephony foundation (such as reception) must first be there. It would be an issue if joe public can get reception everywhere when using Nokia, but when he changed to SE he cannot get reception 15% of the time.
max_wedge
Max, i think in most cases the issue is not hardware durability but more of software+hardware issues. e.g the problem with K750 hanging is most probably software issue. To the ave Joe Public, if the phone freezes, then he would think it is hardware problem. So it is the overall package that counts.
Of course you would not have problem with your SE because you breath SE.
Unfortunately many are just Joe Public. If SE just design to cater to users like you, then SE would be lost.
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Posted: 2005-08-28 05:00:20
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Whilst not belittling nor being fanatically devoted to any specific manufacturer, i must say the creaking phenomenon has been experienced in quite a few offerings from various manufacturers, Nokia included. However, while i'm finding a replacement for my 6600 my ancient yet reliable 3510i "brick" keeps me on Esato...
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Posted: 2005-08-28 05:02:57
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