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I use a mac alongside with my Windows PC, I've gotta say, mac's stability can be compared to linux, and its excelent UI can bw compared to vista. However I don't use my mac laptop for anything except listning to music, surfing the net etc., for my serious work stuff, I use my vaio. Reason: While mac is good and stuff, just not got the backing of a majority of the developers. Being a developer myself, no developer would go into mac development, unless there is a huge amount of capital to see him through it. Microsoft on the other hand, takes very good care of the developers, forget the professionals, they even support the hobbyists. That's why a lot more software is availabe for a PC, and why my company doesn't use mac's.
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Posted: 2006-02-25 04:29:00
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While mac is good and stuff, just not got the backing of a majority of the developers
The majority of big name developers do support the Mac with their major applications:
Adobe, Microsoft, Macromedia, Corel, Autodesk (Alias|Wavefront), Filemaker, Quicken, Quark, Intuit, AOL etc.etc all support Mac and the majority of people use the best-known apps to do their work.
There is a catalog of over 23,000 applications for Mac
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Yes, there may not be 50 identical applications to choose from to do a particular job, but the 5 or so that you can choose from are generally better quality, as developers only develop their best products for the Mac market.
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Posted: 2006-02-25 09:45:38
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What about games? Macs are certainly starved of many big named titles such as Half-Life 2.
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Posted: 2006-02-25 12:44:57
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On 2006-02-25 09:45:38, JoolsG4 wrote:
There is a catalog of over 23,000 applications for Mac
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23000 applications? Is that a big number to you?
Please don't get me wrong, I love my mac, Its just that, while doing work, my PC is more useful (to me).
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Posted: 2006-02-25 21:07:35
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Luke, I agree mostly with what you say. Infact, I agree that mac os x is an excellent os, and I have a lot of respect for it's abilities and design. And I accept that often a mac is a better choice than a pc.
the mac has a slower processor but runs more instructions per second than intel processors, so while it has a slower bus speed, it has a faster computational speed. That's why you dad's runs faster than your PC, which has a faster bus speed. A powerpc chip compared to intel is like a V8 compared to a juiced up 4 cylinder engine - the V8 can achieve higher power output as the 4, but does it at a lower rpm. To get the same power out of the 4, you need to run it at a much higher rpm. Likewise with an intel, to get the same performance, you need to run it faster. Like a hotted up four cylinder engine, pentium's are designed to be able to run at very high speeds and still be durable. And they are VERY durable.
The downside of mac hardware is that it has to be changed virtually from one os to the next since the os matches the hardware so closely. Yet my Asus laptop that came out with Windows 2000 when new, is about 6 years old and can still run the latest version of windows (or for that matter windows 3.1.). You just don't get that with apple mac's. My laptop has all the advantages of the latest windows os, runs smoothly and reliably, has full compatibility with modern windows software. I do development on the Asus, I run several java ide's, SDK's and other various heavy duty applications. Sometimes they run alittle slow, but for the convenience of not having to get off my arse and go to my office I'm willing to task switch to internet surfing while shit happens in the background ( or run rdp sessions).
If I had a mac, then I'd have had to trade it in ateast 2 years ago for a new machine or simply put up with an antiquated computer that that's no longer compatible with anything (or buy a cheap wintel laptop). Not only that half the development stuff I use just isn't available on mac.
Mac users might claim that the reason windows has so much developer support is not a technical advantage but simply due to the huge market share windows has. Then later the same mac user will claim that windows has poorer security proved by the fact it needs antivirus software, as if the mac's immunity to viruses is some sort of magical ability of the mac os and not due to the fact it has so little marketshare no one bothers writing viruses for mac os. So they trot out the marketshare argument when it suits them but refuse to accept it when it doesn't suit them.
I very rarely hear windows users making such wild and hypercritical claims about MAC, yet many MAC users do so about windows on a constant basis. Worse, their comments are outdated, obsolete, emotional arguments that no longer have any validity. They are simply repeating what they have been told years ago and clinging to it in desperation.
My only wish is that mac/windows differences can be discussed rationally without resorting to emotional arguments, and when I hear comments that rely on phallacy for their accuracy, I will shoot them down with as much knowledge and reason I can gather. For a mac user to claim for example that mac is immune to viruses, would be like a doctor claiming blood letting will cure you of disease. Any decent doctor hearing another doctor make such a claim, would feel obligated to say something. That's how I feel when people claim mac is "faster", "more secure", "more reliable" than Windows. Windows is faster on comparable hardware, more secure due to years of vulnurability exposures by virus writers, and just as reliable now due to the mature NT5 code base.
So basically, when someone says "windows is poo" and "windows is slow" I see red
To me the gloves are off, the challenge is on.
I'm willingly to accept that for whatever reason, your pc is slower than your dad's mac. But ultimately it is an individual case and can not be used as proof of either windows is poo, or windows is slow. You need more experience and or knowledge to make such a claim.
That said good luck with your mac, I'm sure you won't regret it.
It's all good.
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Posted: 2006-02-26 12:13:16
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23000 applications? Is that a big number to you?
Er... yes.... it is! Why? Do
you use more applications than that on a daily basis (or even in your lifetime!)?
I use the same 10 or so apps all the time, and I'm a graphic designer which requires the use of more apps than many people's jobs!
Adobe Photoshop
Adobe GoLive
Macromedia Flash
Macromedia Fireworks
Macromedia Freehand
Safari
Mail
DVD Studio Pro
Adobe After Effects
When I'm not working I mainly use the following:
Safari
Mail
iTunes
iChat
(which just happen to be all part of the OS)
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Posted: 2006-02-27 10:55:48
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why has this turned into a PC vs Mac debate?
its a thread tracking (very rare) occurances of possible holes that viruses could attack. thanks.
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Posted: 2006-02-27 11:06:53
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@max-wedge
You might like to read the following article from a Linux (not Mac or Windows) site:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/s[....]cs-Are-Slower-Right-36964.html
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The downside of mac hardware is that it has to be changed virtually from one os to the next since the os matches the hardware so closely.
Not true! In our office, all the Macs we use are at least 4.5 years old, all are running Tiger (the latest OS) and all do their job perfectly (which includes DVD Authoring, heavy Photoshop work, video editing etc.).
Compare that to our 4 year old PC, is so slow its virtually unusuable and all it is ever used for is testing web-sites! We tried updating the OS, in the hope it would speed it up, but it just made it even slower...
It's a pretty well known fact that Macs have a longer usable life, which although they may be a bit more expensive to buy in the first place, means they actually work out cheaper over the life of the machine, (especially when you factor in support costs).
Another Linux site article here:
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/36120.html
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Posted: 2006-02-27 11:11:22
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Apple has released a security update now that fixes multiple vulnerabilities, including a critical flaw in its Safari web browser that created a means for hackers to attack vulnerable systems.
Security Update 2006-001 Mac OS X 10.4.5 (PowerPC Macs)
Security Update 2006-001 Mac OS X 10.4.5 Client (Intel Macs)
Security Update 2006-001 (10.3.9 Client)
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Posted: 2006-03-02 14:53:11
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