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UIQ3 sucks ... with the SE strategy of developing it (... also fixing / testing / "reading" feedback from users) it will take few years.
W960 - still Tri-band ?! ... sure it's an amazing technology leap.
"... you cannot throw away years of development from one company like sony and ericsson ..."
You betcha ... I will throw it away and I will not look back ... if I find iPhone just a little bit more reliable than my current SE "smart" phone(?!)
At least Apple are more friendly with their customers.
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Posted: 2007-06-17 02:50:21
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That w960 looks like a scorcher i like the plastic keypad pretty cool cant wait to see this ipod phone
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Posted: 2007-06-17 03:22:37
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Definitely w960i! But i heard it will only be out 4Q 07 & only for europe markets... Anyone heard that story as well? W960i is just like the Predecessor of w950i.. Go for it! Apple likely may not have a gd chance after all. Maybe all those marketing may still get a slice of the piece for apple thou.
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Posted: 2007-06-17 05:24:44
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Folks, if we are talking about which is the better handset - W960 or iPhone - well I think we'll have to wait till they are both released.
But if we were talking about which will be the better selling - well in my mind there's no doubt - iPHONE!
Reason being that Apple are sensational in their marketing. People have been talking about an iPhone for as long as I can remember. And just before it was announced to day of announcement, till after announcement, people just did not shut up about The IPHONE. The thing was even in all the national news, newspapers, magazines... everywhere.
Also, all their are a lot of muppets who will buy the iphone not because of its ground breaking facts, but simply because it will be the fashion accessory to have... just like the ipod. The amount of muppets i know who bought an ipod just for the sake of it being the gadget to have. The same muppets who bought the ipod as a fashion accessory will also buy the iphone. That makes a lot of iphone sales!!! They'll flash it off to all their friends, family, colleagues at work... and muggers!!! Sorry to sound a touch crude or harsh, but Im from the communications field and marketing is one of my strong points.
Now, Sony Ericsson are SH1TE at marketing (dont get me started with their last marketing campaign for W950 and W880i)! With the W960 Sony Ericsson had the most unbelievable chance to steal Apples thunder. But they wasted it. No one knew for certain that this phone would defintely be announced. And, most of the general public, including the muppets mentioned above, still dont know about the W960 - even after its announcement.
What SE should have done was announce "some thing even better than the iphone" - now this would have turned some heads and raised some eyebrows!
SE, and the W960, would have been in all the news, newspapers etc just like the iPhone - but would have had the last laugh, as judging by what Ive read the W960 is the better all round phone... and please let me reitterate what I just said "is the better ALL ROUND phone". (just in case people start biting my head off after misreading!!!)
Im sure a lot of you dont care which phone has the better sales, after all you guys im sure wouldnt mind being exclusive
So, in short, watch iPhone trounce the market. Me on the other hand... well Im torn. Im a devout Mac user. But would much rather have the W960 over the iPhone. But W960, as with most SE products, aint Mac compatible. Now that to me is another BIG mistake by SE. But this is a whole new thread and topic to discuss (which I think is available in the SE Genral section on here!)
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Posted: 2007-06-17 23:29:44
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it's not only howmany commercials they make... it's a image thing
a porche got more image/style compared to a volvo
(maybe volvo is a better car, more safe, cleaner, more hightech .... but still it's a volvo)
same with watches/cloths etc... so is a mobilephone.
an Apple Ipod Phone just got more style/image/class compared to yet another Ericsson or nokia phone....
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Posted: 2007-06-19 15:15:09
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iphone is nothing but hype and a large touchscreen.
the phone itself is quite mediocre.
no video recording capabilities? 2mp camera with no AF and no options? no third party applications? no games? NO MULTITASKING CAPABILITIES?
all the iphone is, is an ipod with a larger screen. and they threw in calling functions for good measure.
[ This Message was edited by: yiujun on 2007-08-18 06:44 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-18 07:42:31
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IPHONE =NO AD2P what is apple thinking?
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Posted: 2007-08-19 05:31:11
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If Apple were more friendly with their customers, where's that removable battery? And why is there a mobile phone provider lock?
I doubt the iPhone will have a significant impact in Asia. Phones are generally sold unlocked and should Apple choose to continue to do so, it just won't be able to make that 10 Million target
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Posted: 2007-08-19 05:47:58
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphonecomp.jpg
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Posted: 2007-08-19 05:54:22
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@Driveforward.
Man you actually remember that Ericsson Psion clone! Incredible!
The Ericsson R380 was the very 1st PDA-based Smartphone on the market EVER! OS was (EPOC) based.
As far as I'm concerned ALL OS' are either OPEN or CLOSED to some extent. Regardless of how many platforms they run on.
CLOSED:
If digital signing or registration is a MUST for the application to be installed or run freely by accessing known API's; then its a CLOSED OS. You can code for it , distribute it free/cost but others cannot install it and it to run correctly without being signed. S60 3rd Edition and all drivers for Vista on Windows is the same in this case!
OPEN:
If anyone with the know-how can code, distribute, and run those applications upon an OS without a governing body, or overseer to allow it to run and while API's for ALL kinds of functions within the OS; then its open. If an OS can be coded for by Free SDK's or other programming aids by the maker of the OS without the need for a degree ... then the OS is OPEN.
Windows, Mac OS X (Darwin OS with huge FreeBSD Unix underpinnings; you'd be amazed how close to standards it is in this regard), Linux (mobile Linux withstanding as great features are pulled to suit such an environment regardless of the hype), Symbian (S60/UIQ3) are ALL OPEN OS'.
Now that said. SE took a great leap of faith in changing their platform, even if slightly by removing the Flip.
W960 Offers the best integration of business & entertainment; although no qwerty keyboard will annoy some, its not bad.
btw, the iPhone does have WiFi, but no UMA support thus far. Just don't forget iPhone is running a slimmed down version of OS X a desktop software. Just like the iTV does, so don't knock its abilities just yet, they can expand when developers & apple let them have full rein. Symbian OS is just maturing where it can compete with desktop software; not quite but soon enough.
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Posted: 2007-08-19 06:30:14
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