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Sorry, but that's a rather grandiose misrepresentation - the price being charged for it is actually very reasonable, and significantly less than much of the supposedly more "groundbreaking" competition. At the end of the day, consumers will judge for themselves whether the price/feature quotient is fair - and if it's not good value, it won't sell.
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Posted: 2007-08-07 12:52:52
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I'm sure that sooner or later SE will make a new smartphone with the same network capabilities like K850i.
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Posted: 2007-08-07 12:56:00
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@sassafras and Boinng,

You might have a point, however I would still say with price not being a factor, HSDPA, and 802.11G are two technologies that should be included in "curent" higher end phones. I just think, and this is my opinion, that SE customers are being short-changed by payng for repackaged technology. It seems that your loyalty is not being rewarded.

In ref to the OP, if he can get free wifi, or have wifi as a main data carrier, then HSDPA will not be of benefit, nor would 3G for that matter. However, if an unlimited data account is pretty cheap, then it might be a consideration.
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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2007-08-07 12:01 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-07 12:59:53
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@Boinng

The rapid price drop from when first announced to now may well be good for the consumer and IMO a much fairer price for the technology it delivers. the fact that only one Network is offering the device and it doesn't even look the others are even considering launching it for now at least can not possibly be conceived as a positive.

On topic the simple facts are that currently 3G offers maximum speeds of 384kbps.

HSDPA currently supports 1.8mbps max speed and is due to rise to 7.2mbps before the need of the Year and that is more than just a little bit faster.

As Web 2.0 has evolved both Web sites and Video's are becoming more complex and the qaulity is improving. This come as at a price that being it requires more bandwidth. Along with better and faster processors that are able to handle and decode this information fast enough means the user experience is improved. No waiting and no stuttering or buffering will occur. Any device that does not HSDPA and a faster processor and graphics array will struggle to play smoothly these more intensive web sites or Video feeds.

This is why most deices are seeing huge improvements in their processors and graphics so they can take full advantage of these advances. The simple fact is while the P1 may do the job well enough now it won't by early next year simply they is no future proofing in the P1 itsn't even future proofed for now.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-07 12:25 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-07 13:25:42
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@sapporababy, I know what you're saying, but nobody - not even SE's most loyal customers - are being forced to buy the P1. It can be considered a stop-gap product until SE get a handle on integrating some of the newer technologies in UIQ, but it's also a solid and very capable evolution of their existing smartphone range - in much the same way as the successful P900 and P910 were in the past - and it's priced quite fairly too.

If you can do without enhancements such as HSDPA and Wifi G, then the P1 is an excellent buy, and will serve you well as a reliable, and very competent smartphone. If, on the other hand, you can't live without those features, then unfortunately SE don't have a smartphone for you at the moment, and they will probably suffer some lost sales as a result of that. That's a shame, but I suspect it's just the way it has to be, until SE's extra investment in UIQ bears fruit and their development speed (and quality) moves up a notch.

@dogmann, we both know we've had this debate many times, and I really don't need to see the figures yet again, there's no doubt in anyone's mind that HSDPA is faster than existing 3G - that's rather the point of it. As I've said many times before, I don't believe the increased speed is a "must have" right now or in the near future, and as you've said many times before you disagree with that point of view. Enough said.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-08-07 12:34 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-07 13:30:20
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Why!? What is the point of HSDPA? Mobile internet is frivolous!
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Posted: 2007-08-07 13:31:27
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If this has to be explained to you then see if you can get a Nokia 2110i. This would suit your needs.
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you are absolutely right
I think that many people are satisfied with 3G, and i if you need HSDPA, then buy a phone with HSDPA
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Posted: 2007-08-07 13:38:42
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@Boing

This is not just my opinion even in the excellent and very positive review of the P1 in STUFF magazine they did highlight that the lack of HSDPA and i quote

"the P1 may be slightly limited by it's lack of HSDPA"

They are also not the only review to have made this point either.

It may of escaped your notice but in the title of this thread it asks a very specific question to which i am expressing my point of view as are you the fact we will have to agree to disagree does not mean i can not still make and back up my point of view and answer the posters question.

@Alexandra

Well really that is the whole point of HSDPA and faster processors and graphics chips is that the Internet becomes the full blown experience as 7.2mbps is faster than most peoples home broadband connection even 3.6mbps is actually still faster than most which means the whole experience is the same as on your home computer mobile data will actually start to deliver on it's promise. The jump in performance is not a tiny step but another giant leap forward and next Year when even better and faster chips start appearing in our devices this will be seen by at least those of us that have them.

Marc



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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-08-07 12:54 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-07 13:52:55
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@ Dogmann
You are right
i think that the reason that P1 doesnt have HSDPA, GPS and Quadband is because a better smartphone is on the way. SE wants a bigger market and then if you dont need HSDPA, buy the P1. DO you need HSDPA then buy te P3. Nokia does the same: You can choose the excellent E65 or you can choose the even better E90
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Posted: 2007-08-07 14:03:50
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