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Can I do the same to your religion? Can I mock your beliefs?
Yes. You can if you wish. And I wouldn't take offense at all.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 20:15:49
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On 2008-05-09 18:42:51, Cycovision wrote:
On 2008-05-09 18:12:51, QVGA wrote:
He must have some balls talking in that tone.
Not really. He's only speaking the truth. It applies to anybody living in a different country, regardless of their race or religion. You follow the laws and respect the cultures of that particular country. No question.
I see no need for anybody to be offended by what he said.
I'm not offended. In fact i'm impressed by what he said. What i meant was that for a PM, shouldn't you atleast try to sound 'nice' and diplomatic?
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Posted: 2008-05-09 20:17:10
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@Caspa
Wa'alaykum salaam
Peace be on you too
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Posted: 2008-05-09 20:17:58
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Sorry QVGA, looks like I read your post too hastily yet again!
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Posted: 2008-05-09 20:22:15
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All he is trying to say is that if you live in a certain country you should abide by that countries rules, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Anybody with half a brain knows that the large majority of Muslims are good people with no intention of causing any upset or terrorism. It's the small minority which undermine the religion and cause it to be stereotyped, which is a sad shame.
Again this may be a minority but it really annoys me when people come to live over here and in other countries and decide to live off the government and make no effort to integrate into the community and learn the language. It's good to see him standing up and saying what he thinks, the British government could take alot on board as i feel this country especially has become a pushover in many peoples eyes.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 20:36:22
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On 2008-05-09 20:36:22, haynesycop wrote:
All he is trying to say is that if you live in a certain country you should abide by that countries rules, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Anybody with half a brain knows that the large majority of Muslims are good people with no intention of causing any upset or terrorism. It's the small minority which undermine the religion and cause it to be stereotyped, which is a sad shame.
Again this may be a minority but it really annoys me when people come to live over here and in other countries and decide to live off the government and make no effort to integrate into the community and learn the language. It's good to see him standing up and saying what he thinks, the British government could take alot on board as i feel this country especially has become a pushover in many peoples eyes.
Well said, 100% spot on.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 21:14:02
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londonlad123 Posts: > 500
This is just another case of media and politicians fooling people into getting worked up using fear and hate. Always giving you someone to hate so its not them, so its not about why hospitals and schools arent being managed properly by them, illegal wars, etc. So you follow them blindly, thinking you've achieved something.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 21:38:16
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Being a Muslim i need to be able to do the following actions, which this great country (UK) has no objections to as far as i know. These guidelines are a Must for every Muslim to follow and if they do so in the correct manner the UK or any country in the world will have no issues. But what we see in the media is Muslims potrayed as killing others and suicide bombers etc, the truth is Islam has no teachings of these actions so these as Haynesycop says are a minority and they should be kicked out, totally agree on that point myself.
a)
Pray 5 times a day
b)
Give Charity
c)
Fast during the month of Ramadhan
d)
Perform a Pilgrimage once in my life
e)
Be able to go to the Mosque
f)
Be able to pray the Holy Quran and teach my kids the Holy Quran
g)
Be able to follow the ways shown by Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)] **
h)
Believe in One God
** A few basic teachings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH):
Help the poor
Respect your parents
Have no ill feelings against each other
Have mercy on your young ones
Be kind to your Neighbours
Live in harmony
Eat with your right hand
Sit down and eat/drink
These are just a few points, why someone would rdaw pathetic cartoons of this man is beyond me!! Here are a few links which may help you to get to know Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) better:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dbIaetu85OM
http://muhammad.net/j/index.p[....]ry§ionid=6&id=20&Itemid=33
Basically the above is what a Muslim must be able to do and in a nutshell the UK has no issues, the minority who do the wrong things in the name of Islam should be punished.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 21:54:40
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Many and for some all of those points are what any self respecting individual should follow, unfortunately not everybody does, i like to think i do apart from the praying and religion side, the rest is just common sense and respect.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 22:04:31
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On 2008-05-09 17:33:45, badassmam wrote:
@Arien617
Maybe you should read the Qur'an and you will realise that you do not in any way represent Muslims. Maybe you should find out why women wear a hijab rather than say 'religion causes tension', media slaves like yourself cause tension.
Again, I'd like to point out that you have to adapt when living in other countries. The Hijab makes the people wearing it seem hostile, you don't want to approach them, and it's not just me, I'm sure most feel this way about it!
Media slave.. dude, I'm 15. I still have a mind of my own, my opinions/decisions aren't influenced by the media. I'm well aware that no one reports the truth in today's war torn, racist world.
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Posted: 2008-05-09 23:43:50
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