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this discussion is out of subject...Anyway p800 is a great phone ! The future is CDMA and will include all the things that AsianFLu wants!
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Posted: 2003-05-29 21:28:54
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I cant beleive you guys sometimes. How can you think that bad of the p800!!!!!
Im a pro cyclist, I live on the road. go to town to town. I keep my trainind diary on the phone(perfect! for me). I get driven about 15hours a week in a car. I listen to my mp3 player, which i think that rocks!!! I'll chech my email write a few. Go on the web cyclingnews.com, look at some of the results! I go for a 5 hour ride a day listen to music, when my phone rings i can hear it, why because music stops playing(same device!). I broke a frame last week. I was stuck in the middle of nowhere, called manager to pick my up. Emailed my friends a photo of the frame, looks cool, snaped frame big time! Then mms my girlfriend the pic so she gets it at the same time!!! I sit there play some games while waiting for my boss!
YON NAME ONE DEVICE THAT CAN DO THAT!!!!
Its also my modem with my laptop over bluetooth!! This thing suits me to the ground! GPRS is not much here in austria! Go on a GPRS package and you will be fine!
Oh and if you batt is dieing that quick then you have probs!! do a search and find out how to fix it!
A close apps.
B Have blue tooth on auto
C screen saver off!
D screen light on auto
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Posted: 2003-05-29 21:37:53
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I had a Nokia 9110 and 9210 prior to the P800 coming out, and while the only downside in comparison to these is the P800s on-screen keyboard, the up-sides are numerable:
1. GPRS. Yes, it may be expensive, but it will come down. Look at how call costs have come down in recent years. Like any new technology they fleece you to start with. I don't yet know what the 3G video call costs are, but no doubt they're huge! And also, you can use dialup if you want to, which is the same as you'd use on any other phone if you want to connect to the Internet - even if you're using a laptop and connecting remotely...
2. Built in camera. OK, it's only VGA and not the best in the world, but I find it very handy to have a camera on me at all times.
3. MP3 player. I think it sounds pretty reasonable, and again to have an MP3 player with me wherever I go is great.
4. Battery life. I'm getting 3-4 days out of mine. I admit that the P800 does not handle/close apps as efficiently as it might and have not used IR/BT much either, but I've been making and receiving a few calls a day and using it as a PDA regularly.
Also, given that so many people are developing apps for the P800 it can be many more things to many more men.
I understand AsianFlu's gripes, but at the end of the day you're talking about a pocket-size device that has a hell of a lot of quite functional features with the potential to be expanded as new developments occur. In the keyboard front, maybe some guru will develop a IR/BT keyboard like the Palms (and I seem to recall there being one for an old Ericsson as well?)
At the end of the day everyone has their own opinions. I loved my Nokia 9210 but my boss bought one and hated it...
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Posted: 2003-05-29 21:40:53
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p800 has all the functions i need! Mp3 and camera are very useful!
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Posted: 2003-05-29 21:44:07
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I dont know how in christ you get the battery life you quote, mine lasts less than 8 hours if im using it!
This message was posted from a WAP device
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Posted: 2003-05-29 23:05:25
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There is no "best" phone/device. The question is what do you need and use.
Blackberrys are great for email but they do not do attachments. For me that is fatal because I get lots of emails with attachments and I need to see them.
I have had Palm devices (I bought the very fist Palm) and Pocket PC devices. They work great but I hate carrying around two or three devices.
The issue of synchronization is a fair one. I use Act! and cannot synchoronize directly. All I do now is synchronize between Act! and Outlook and then between Outlook and the phone. sounds complicated but just takes some extra time. After all, we are only talking about pushing some buttons on a computer. Eventually I would expect that some program will be developed to do the synchornization.
Battery life is a bit of a pain, but I remeber when I had a cellphone that had about 8 hours of standby time and about an hour of talk time. At the time, it was great.
The fact is that I do not like the P800 becuase it does everything, but I like it because it does everything I need in one device. if you are expecting any of these devices to somehow do everything well, it will never happen.
As for cost well put simply, you use what you can afford. That does not make soimething bad, it just makes it more expensive.
Quite frankly,the P800 works as advsertised which is quite an accomplishment. It woeks flawlessly with all of my email accoutns through GPRS. It can surf the net effectively enough for a handhheld device. The bluetooth is cool for the headsets. I have tried to use bluetooth with my Compaq IPAQ and a phone to do all of this and there was always a problem.
The P800 has my vote for a great Phone/PDA Combo
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Posted: 2003-05-29 23:40:10
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On 2003-05-29 23:05:25, Psykotik wrote:
I dont know how in christ you get the battery life you quote, mine lasts less than 8 hours if im using it!
really??? that's bad! i have gprs on 24/7 and god know how many running apps, i forget to keep clsoing them, and only charge on the cradle for a few hours in the eve before i go to bed just to top up.
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Posted: 2003-05-29 23:48:50
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at the risk of beating a dead horse
battery life is the biggest single problem. No way will it last more than just daylight hours (pop it in the charger each night) if put more than an hour of screen time into it, plus some calls, still WITHOUT running any games or bluetooth.
I could put up with a lot of issues, and wait for better software, if the battery didnt go flat while you were sitting watching browsers not loading pages, and wasting time closing applications.
The other gripe is the people porting software (tracker, worldmate etc) are extremely greedy daring to charge for it, when they are so clearly writing version 1.0 stuff, and we're debugging it for them. The main reason for tracker is to kill processes. its outrageous to have to pay to kill processes! Worldmate is cute, mainly for the weather forecasts, but to lock itself after its run for merely 20 times (easy to do when you want to maximise battery life), is rude. In my view, the downloadable software area is taking advantage of early adoptors thirst for new toys to play with.
I think the P800 reviews on the web are so weak. they fuss and gloat over screenshots and features, but do not test and report battery life properly, do not point out the drawbacks, do not compare to blackberry, do not talk about gprs charges, are way too forgiving, thinking that just because a phone has the most memory and longest feature list, it must be the most pleasurable to use, when the opposite is almost the case.
The guy with the bike is almost a perfect example of what is wrong with these 2.5g phones. Unlike a top line phone, i've decided the P800 is a either a future tech showcase - but as impractical as the "design concept" cars they have in motor shows - or useful only when you must travel very light, and have no idea what might occur on the day, and are ok with just scraping by in any category.
maybe i'll change my mind slightly if I get used to the hodge-podge interface, but i doubt it..
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Posted: 2003-05-29 23:50:02
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To me it looks like you don't like the P800 at all. That's ok, but I don't get the point of what you are trying to acomplish by sharing this on a Sony Ericsson forum with so many happy P800 users.
I respect that you don't like it, but I don't understand what you are trying to tell us...
What are you happy with?
My guess is nothing....
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[ This Message was edited by: Swag on 2003-05-29 23:06 ]
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Posted: 2003-05-30 00:04:02
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lmagine what you have to wear to carry round t100 a game boy advance with 10 games a clie a mp3 player a pda etc etc. you have a choice i have all the abov stuff bu made the decision to get a p800 and i havent looked back its great and my battery life is good for what it does i get count less hours for mp3 and ogg allows lots of tracks. and with all the free space in your pocket chuck in a spare battery and a few mp3 full 128 duo's. t68 is shit
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Posted: 2003-05-30 00:10:52
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