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@methylated_spirit
Have you already registered your Banking / credit cards with MEND? I mean, who would write down itīs number before itīs stolen.. Ah, I see, better write it down in public websites than in private..
@frontman
good to know there is a mark possibility; nevertheless tis is the only sensible effort for me; all other devices could therefore be listed private elsewhere or at home..
I absolutely do not want to distract anybody from registering, just think a second about giving information.
I did some kind of this last time when I went to south america - took copies of my passport and other papers, made a document with account and credit card numbers and so on - and I stored it online in a folder of my mail account - where it can be perfectly accessed when needed (and I havenīt updated my IMEI due to the fact that it is still perfectly readable from the SE box my phone came in..)
but win/win is ok for me..
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[ This Message was edited by: fetzi on 2004-11-24 14:35 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-24 15:34:20
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To be quite honest, the argument
against using a service such as this is extremely thin and heavily reliant upon what seems to be a prevailing paranoia, encompassing anyone who asks for information as personal as your nationality!
To those of us with a slightly more open mind (although I am the first to agree that a little skepticism is perfectly healthy) this is a useful service.
I do have one question for you, though, Fetzi. If you "absolutely do not want to distract anybody from registering", then why are you persisting in making the same point over and over again, only stopping occasionally to contradict yourself by saying that you are actually "Still thinking that it is kind of useful".
You also do your argument no favours by comparing registering one's IMEI with registering one's credit card details - hardly a decent comparison, now is it?!
The answer seems fairly simple to me - if you don't trust it, don't use it.
Or am I missing something here
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[ This Message was edited by: dave_uk on 2004-11-24 14:49 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-24 15:46:05
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To be quite honest, the argument
against using a service such as this is extremely thin and heavily reliant upon what seems to be a prevailing paranoia, encompassing anyone who asks for information as personal as your nationality!
with the slight difference your nationality normally isnīt that interesting to the selling industry which would be very happy to know which technical devices can be found in combination at the consumer (like the 'other consumers also bought this' ad at amazon).
Quote:To those of us with a slightly more open mind (although I am the first to agree that a little skepticism is perfectly healthy) this is a useful service.
thanks for the flowers, this was calling me redneck dumbass, eh?
Quote:I do have one question for you, though, Fetzi. If you "absolutely do not want to distract anybody from registering", then why are you persisting in making the same point over and over again, only stopping occasionally to contradict yourself by saying that you are actually "Still thinking that it is kind of useful".
unless the last time I 'repeated' my points seemingly we discussed in different ways; but most of all - why stop a good argumentation as long as there are people willing to discuss? Thatīs what forums are for.. Shouldnīt be a crime, should it?
Quote:You also do your argument no favours by comparing registering one's IMEI with registering one's credit card details - hardly a decent comparison, now is it?!
If your credit card is stolen it is very useful to block the number not to suffer losses; if your phone is stolen the IMEI number is very useful to identify and get it back. Though not perfectly fitting I do think itīs not that different.
Quote:The answer seems fairly simple to me - if you don't trust it, don't use it.
Or am I missing something here
As I said - I just want to make people think..
BTW - did I mention that I must have the final say
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If you don't think your IMEI is a little less significant than your credit card details then I guess you need to have more than the last word
Argument for the sake of argument is fine, if that's what flicks your switch. Apparently, in this thread, the light is on and burning brightly for the masses. Personally, I do think this is the same essential point being rehashed "in different ways", as you say.
But anyway.... I don't think you're a redneck dumbass, just perhaps a little paranoid, or alternatively just intent on sparking debate.
Who knows? Who cares?? Enjoy the last word
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fetzi, have you actually looked at the website? All it asks you for is your name, address, contact number, and email - all of which is on file the day you recieve your national insurance card anyway. The criminal is always one step ahead, at least this way you stand half a chance of recovering property. The police do recover a lot of items, but have no way of tracking who's it is, they simply need to put the IMEI number in, and bingo! Your property is returned. I dont see why you are arguing against it to be honest. All that "big brother is watching you" nonesense is right out the window.
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@dave_uk
Iīm doing all that I can - in this thread this is real work!
@methylated_spirit
No I didnīt; you keep me updated with proper information..
I do not argue against police having a possbility to return the stolen to its owner; I can sign up if something is stolen. But itīs this tiny little bit in every new service used only 'to make it more comfortable' where again and more information about you is collected. Think about the way your country is already covered with cameras, think about every transfer you make with plastic money, think about all your registrations with services, providers - even this forum (Am I getting declamatory again?)! The only thing I say half of the way (as described before) would perferctly fit - the other half is personally useless - but only for me.
I may sound BigBro frightened as hell - no, Iīm not. Iīm not only paying cash and things like this. Most of the services I do use by myself. But people tend to 'arrange' with everything and accept - in my opinion - way to much the unrestricted access to their privacy.
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This is rapidly heading off topic...but im willing to argue the toss with you
What is wrong with that? Its only crooks and thieves who need worry about it. Its there for your protection. I would rather the powers-that-be knew a little about me, and my property. My god, your going back to the cold war with this nonesense. You are talking about something you dont understand. I dont lecture you on the way the Polish government do things, because i dont know anything about it! What do you actually know about the reasoning behind the way things are done here, only distorted views you have heard on the news i'll bet. here are two sides to every story; you say its a nanny state, i say its to keep you safe, to try to help the honest people who are being ripped off, scammed, and mugged out of their hard-earned money and posessions.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 16:50:29
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@meths
BTW, what do you think of ID cards?
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Posted: 2004-11-24 16:51:45
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I dont have a problem with them myself
i've got nothing to hide, and it saves me having to take my precious and bulky passport with me on a night out. And i dont care about people who DO have something to hide: They shouldnt have done it i the first place
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Dude,
Where are you going on your nights out, that you need to take a passport? Brixton??
I was just making the point that that is an issue about which some could be justifiably sceptical, as opposed to protecting the identity of one's phone, which hardly warrants the column inches it has already had!
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:09:04
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