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I have ogg tracks of 800kb to 1mb and still sounds decent at 45kbps
[ This Message was edited by: mamba on 2005-01-07 21:15 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-07 22:08:57
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On 2005-01-07 17:04:23, nickorooster wrote:
But what if (god forbid) we only have the mp3s?

. If the mp3 is 192kbps (CD quality) and you want to convert it to ogg, you can go straight right?
if you want to do any conversion from mp3 to ogg, yes you CAN do it, but there is really no point, as i explained, it will only lose quality
the whole point of using ogg is that you can get decent quality sound files at lower bitrates.......if you are converting from mp3s, you will lsoe quality anwyays, thus, whats the point???
the only thing this would do is make the file smaller........and if you jsut want to make the file smaller, it really doesnt matter which format you use since youll lose quality whatever you do
if you only have the mp3's, id suggest buying the album so you can rip them properly at decent quality
-x-x-x-
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Posted: 2005-01-07 23:05:10
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@nick
why dont u try to convert the mp3 into a wave first and then re-encode it to OGG. thats what I do and I find that the OGG's on the phone sound similar to the MP3's on the phone so i guess OGG is better considering the small filesize and only the 128MB memory stick limit of the p900 (and p800 i think).
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Posted: 2005-01-08 11:52:59
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no this is not good because you definitely lose quality..
By making the mp3 file standard audio, you don;t gain any quality, you just make the same mp3 file (with all the quality loss that it has suffered during its original Audio -->mp3 conversion) compatible with CD players etc.
Then you encode it to ogg.
What you do is actually a waste of time as you'd get exactly the same quality if you converted from mp3 to ogg..
If someone wants to check, encode an mp3 at 129kbit, make it audio, encode it again to mp3 128, then again audio and again mp3 128k... It would be almost inaudible
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Posted: 2005-01-17 15:45:29
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My db converter expires in 5 days..do u guys know any patch for it?
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Posted: 2005-01-22 16:42:25
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On 2005-01-07 22:08:57, mamba wrote:
I have ogg tracks of 800kb to 1mb and still sounds decent at 45kbps
[ This Message was edited by: mamba on 2005-01-07 21:15 ]
I agree...that's why ogg is great
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Posted: 2005-01-22 16:54:03
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I converted straight from MP3 (despite all the quality freaks advising against it

) into OGG.
The original quality of the MP3's was either 128k or 192k, and i used dBPowerAmp to convert them to OGG. I used 64k, 32Khz, and loaded 11 songs on to my 32MB Memory Stick Duo - with enough room left for another 10!
I was expecting
cr@p quality, but my god, you have to listen hard to actually tell the difference! It's more noticeable through headphones, but it sounds like a 92k MP3 or something, and the filesize is around 1000/1500KB.
I'm impressed! I shall put my 128MemDuo on hold for a while, 32MB is doing me fine.
-djkizlive
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Posted: 2005-01-22 18:56:38
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@djkizlive: Well, what do you know! Thank God for Ogg! :-D
This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2005-01-22 19:11:18
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If you have a P910i, I'd reccomend AAC. it plays in the native audio player, and is in my opinion far better quality than OGG. The eq in particular is a lot more base-heavy: OGG if i remmember correctly sounds very tinny
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Posted: 2005-01-22 20:37:17
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I can't say i noticed that, and i was particularly happy with bass reproduction from the P900 on such a poor quality OGG! I'll have to give AAC a try out, to see what the bass is like on that, because i love songs with heavy bass! Unfortunately the P900 headphone output doesn't carry much current, so i think asking for much more bass than what we already get is probably asking for distortion.
I'll give it a try tomorrow and report back!
-djkizlive
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Posted: 2005-01-22 23:37:03
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