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@batesie
Churchill was 90.
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Posted: 2005-03-15 12:15:49
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On 2005-03-15 11:56:00, scotsboyuk wrote:
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The majority of Europeans in their 70's are actually in reasonably good health, certainly not a burden to their families. Most people in their 80's aren't in care homes and quite a number of them are still working and in very good health.
I'd like to see some proof for these statements. Certainly the vast majoruity opf people over 75 is not 'still working' and may be 'in good health' as in 'not sick', my 84 yo grandmother is in good health but her eyes have deteriorated, she can no longer sew (which she loved) or read, she eats minimally therefore never cooks (we do it for her), she walks with a 'rollator' for support, her uterus has been removed because it 'sank' as her body simply could not support it any longer..... she's 'healthy' both physically and mentally but she can not live on her own and wouldn;t make it if it weren;t for her children and grandchildren. She's not a burden though, she's a dear but she certainly doesn't fit your demographic
Nor do any elderly over here. The ones that liev to be 75+ usually are healthy, but there is healthy and then there is healthy at that age
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On 2005-03-15 11:53:08, batesie wrote:
waste money on trying to live longer when there is still no cure for aids or cancer.
Imho, the longer we try to live, the more horrible diseases will spread to cut the density of human population world wide. It's just natures way of telling us she cannot be beaten. Bitter thing is of course the people who invest in 'living forever' have no knowledge that elsewhere children die of cancer to make space for them
Besides, people that wish to live to 1000 years usually do not imply they also want to
work for 1000 years
People that have to work to support themsleves and their families until they die usually do not have time or interest to wonder about how it would be to go like this for another 1000 years.
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Posted: 2005-03-15 12:25:35
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I'd like to see some proof for these statements. Certainly the vast majoruity opf people over 75 is not 'still working' ...
I didn't say the majority were, but there a number who do. There is legislation in Britain that helps older people get jobs; for example many supermarkets now have a number of staff in their 60's, 70's and 80's.
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and may be 'in good health' as in 'not sick', my 84 yo grandmother is in good health but her eyes have deteriorated, she can no longer sew (which she loved) or read, she eats minimally therefore never cooks (we do it for her), she walks with a 'rollator' for support, her uterus has been removed because it 'sank' as her body simply could not support it any longer..... she's 'healthy' both physically and mentally but she can not live on her own and wouldn;t make it if it weren;t for her children and grandchildren. She's not a burden though, she's a dear but she certainly doesn't fit your demographic
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Not everyone will, but if you look to the majority of people, they are perfectly able to cope on their own, without a massive degree of external intervention, certainly not to the extent that one would say they have lost their dignity.
Th epoint I was making was that most people live in a reasonably good state of health that they are not a burden nor are they without dignity. Yes many older people are suffering, but the majority of those in their 70's aren't. Even into the early 80's most people continue to have good health apart from common complaints of old age of course e.g. sore joints, reduced vision, etc.
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Posted: 2005-03-15 12:39:31
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so how many of these elderly people 'in reasonably good health' do you think wish to stick around for another 900 years in this state?
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Posted: 2005-03-15 13:04:03
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oh man with all this live for a thousand years stuff
they fail to realise on certain fact, if they do this, its just one step closer to creating the zombies, think about it, all the zombie movies you see are gonna come true one day, because of some wierd biological weapon, or elongating peoples life span....ITS GONNA HAPPEN....AND IM GONNA BE READY FOR THEM......NO WAY IM GONNA BECOME A ZOMBIE
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Posted: 2005-03-15 14:07:42
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On 2005-03-15 13:04:03, Vlammetje wrote:
so how many of these elderly people 'in reasonably good health' do you think wish to stick around for another 900 years in this state?
I wouldn't want to stick around for 900 years in any state! Long life is only really worthwhile of the medical science is available to allow us to live most of it as we do in our prime.
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Posted: 2005-03-15 14:19:23
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our bodies aren;t built for it, no matter what anybody says..... we are not made for it and at the end of the 1000 years I think we'd be barely human anymore.
No thanks
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Posted: 2005-03-15 15:36:44
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Mine's taken enough of a battering in the last 24 years - I can't begin to imagine what would be left in 976 years!!
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Posted: 2005-03-15 15:38:40
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We already live well past our natural lifespan of approximately 30 to 35 years. If you take away our medical technology and sanitation then then we wouldn't live much past 35 or forty.
Neurological diseases that afflict old people really shouldn't bother human beings very much, we simply weren't designed to live to those ages.
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Posted: 2005-03-15 16:35:32
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Just like Atoms weren't designed to become bombs.
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Posted: 2005-03-16 02:55:00
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