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Thanks for your concern!
However, I like political discussions and the more we debate with nyk and minds alike the more it shows that they have the wrong perception.
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Posted: 2003-04-17 09:56:00
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@ diggy
Y dont u just shut the fu** up if u hav nothing useful to say ?
Im guessing ur sum racist bastard who is sooo anti-arab / anti-muslim..
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take a look at this, then tell me if U stil think that wat attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq are justified, or whether it potrays the US as tru criminals..
PS>> I have NOTHING against American ppl, its just the dumb gov't and ther foreign policies..
US's crimes
A "rogue state" is threatening the world. It possesses weapons of mass destruction, and has used them. It has attacked, bombed and invaded more countries than any other state.
The regime is run by a gang of ruthless killers. They are bent on world domination, and prepared to commit mass murder to achieve it. The state is the US. Its leader is George W Bush.
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Death machine
THE US has the biggest military force the world has ever seen. George Bush's regime will next year spend $396 billion on a war machine whose purpose is to kill and devastate anywhere and anyone who challenges US interests.
Next year's military budget is a $48 billion jump on what the US already spends on arms. It is more than six times the military budget of Russia, the world's second biggest arms spender. It is more than four times what all the European Union countries together spend on arms.
And it is more than 26 times the combined military spending of seven of the countries the US regime is targeting-Iraq, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, Syria and Cuba.
It is 293 times that of Iraq, the country Bush claims is a threat. Bush now plans to expand his death force even further, with a plan to hit an annual £451 billion in military spending by 2007.
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In their words
"THIS IS a period of enormous opportunity, a period akin to 1945-7, to create a new balance of power."
CONDOLEEZZA RICE, Bush's national security adviser
"THE US must maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."
PAUL WOLFOWITZ, US deputy defence secretary
"WHEN I was coming up we knew exactly who the 'they' were. It was us versus them, and it was clear who the them were. Today we are not so sure who the they are, but we know they're there."
GEORGE W BUSH
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Terrorist haven
THE US is the world's biggest haven for war criminals, and harbours terrorists. They include:
HECTOR GRAMAJO MORALES, a former defence minister in Guatemala, was allowed to live for years in the US in the 1990s. He got a study scholarship from the US government. A US court had ruled, "The evidence suggests that Gramajo devised and directed the implementation of an indiscriminate campaign of terror against civilians."
JOSE GUILLERMO GARCIA has lived in Florida since the early 1990s. He headed El Salvador's military when its death squads killed thousands of civilians 20 years ago.
EMMANUEL CONSTANT was head of the infamous FRAPH death squads, which launched a wave of terror in Haiti in the early 1990s. He was on the CIA payroll.
SINTANG PANJAITAN was an Indonesian general who was responsible for a massacre at Santa Cruz in Indonesian-occupied East Timor which killed hundreds of people.
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Long range plan
GEORGE BUSH says the US is waging war against "terrorism", and for "democracy". Its real aims are global military and economic dominance. In 1998 a US government report, The Long Range Plan, argued: "The United States will remain a global power and exert global leadership.
"The gap between have and have-not nations will widen creating regional unrest. The United States will remain the only nation able to project power globally." It called for the US to build up "war fighting capabilities across the full spectrum of conflict" to "protect US interests and investment".
Another report in September 2000, Strategies, Forces and Resources for a New Century, was written by key members of Bush's gang. It talks of a "blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence". It calls for the US to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars".
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A pariah state
THE US has refused to accept or has torn up international agreements which most of the world backs.
George Bush refused to accept the Kyoto agreement to limit greenhouse gas emissions, which threaten environmental disaster.
He has torn up the Anti Ballistic Missile Treaty-a move that threatens a new arms race with the US "Star Wars" or National Missile Defence system.
The US has "unsigned" the treaty setting up an International Criminal Court. It insists that its politicians and troops should never be held to account for crimes they commit.
It has blocked a treaty to ban biological weapons. The FBI admits weapons grade anthrax sent through the post last year came from a US military lab.
It unilaterally amended an agreement over getting rid of chemical weapons to give the US president a veto over where international inspectors could go.
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Weapons threat
THE US has more weapons of mass destruction than anywhere else in the world, and has used them more often. It has over 10,000 nuclear warheads in its arsenal.
Any one of these could destroy a city-annihilating hundreds of thousands of people in the process. The US remains the only regime to have used these terrible weapons in war, dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, killing a quarter of a million people.
US defence policy now authorises the use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states. The US has built and tested anthrax bombs. And it has built facilities in Nevada that could produce biological weapons.
The US used chemical weapons, Agents Orange, Blue and White, during the Vietnam War. Children in Vietnam are still born with birth defects from their effects.
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Global menace
THE US is a proven threat to its neighbours and beyond.
PHILIPPINES, 1898-1910: seizes from Spain, 600,000 Filipinos killed.
PUERTO RICO, 1898: seizes from Spain. PANAMA, 1901-14: separates country from Colombia and annexes canal zone.
HONDURAS, 1903: US marines intervene against revolution.
NICARAGUA, 1912-33: 20-year occupation and war against guerrillas.
HAITI, 1914-34: occupation.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, 1916-24: occupation.
CUBA, 1917-33: military occupation, made into economic protectorate.
RUSSIA, 1917-22: five landings of troops to try to overthrow revolution.
YUGOSLAVIA, 1919: marines intervene against Serbs.
PANAMA, 1925: marines suppress general strike.
CHINA, 1927-34: marines stationed throughout the country.
EL SALVADOR, 1932: warships sent during revolt.
JAPAN, 1945: firebombs Tokyo and other cities, drops atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
PUERTO RICO, 1950: independence rebellion crushed.
KOREA, 1950-3: US and South Korea fight China and North Korea to stalemate. US threatens to use nuclear bombs. At least two million Korean civilians killed or wounded. IRAN, 1953: CIA overthrows democracy.
GUATEMALA, 1954: CIA directs invasion after government nationalises land belonging to US United Fruit company.
LEBANON, 1956: US troops land.
VIETNAM, 1960-75: Two million Vietnamese killed in longest US war.
INDONESIA, 1965: One million killed in CIA-assisted coup.
CAMBODIA, 1969-75: US carpet bombs. Two million killed by years of bombing and starvation.
CHILE, 1973: CIA-backed coup overthrows democratically elected government.
ANGOLA, 1976-92: CIA assists South African backed rebels.
LIBYA, 1981: two Libyan jets shot down.
EL SALVADOR, 1981-92: troops and air power assist death squads, 75,000 people killed.
NICARAGUA, 1981-90: CIA directs Contra invasions.
LEBANON, 1982-4: US forces intervene, navy shells Beirut.
HONDURAS, 1983-9: US troops build bases for death squads.
GRENADA, 1983: US invasion.
LIBYA, 1986: capital Tripoli bombed in effort to kill President Gadaffi.
IRAN, 1987: Iranian passenger jet shot down over Persian Gulf.
PANAMA, 1989-90: invasion, thousands of civilians killed.
GULF WAR, 1990-1: US-led coalition kills 100,000 Iraqis. SOMALIA, 1992-4: US-led United Nations occupation.
EX-YUGOSLAVIA, 1995: bombs Serbs and assists ethnic cleansing.
SUDAN, 1998: bombs pharmaceutical factory.
IRAQ, 1998: four days of air strikes, raids continue until present day.
SERBIA, 1989: 78 days of NATO air strikes.
AFGHANISTAN, 2001: US-led war kills thousands.
IRAQ, 2002...
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The Bush gang
DICK CHENEY, vice-president, was George Bush Sr's defence secretary and pushed for the Gulf War in 1991. He boasted about the gruesome killing of Iraqis in briefings to the US Congress. He is a former member of the board of arms giant TRW. His wife was until recently on the board of arms manufacturer Lockheed Martin.
In the build-up to the 1990 Gulf War Cheney asked Colin Powell to examine the use of nuclear weapons against Iraqi troops. Now he says, "There are 40 or 50 countries which could be targeted for diplomatic, financial or military action."
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COLIN POWELL, secretary of state, is sometimes labelled a "dove" compared with the rest of the gang.
He is in fact a war criminal. Powell helped organise the cover-up of the notorious 1969 My Lai massacre, when US troops murdered 400 Vietnamese villagers. In 1989 Powell helped lead the US invasion of Panama.
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JOHN NEGROPONTE, US ambassador to the United Nations, was ambassador to Honduras in the 1980s, and a central organiser of the state death squads unleashed against trade unionists and the democratic opposition.
The US paper the Baltimore Sun uncovered evidence that during his time in Honduras opponents of the regime "were kidnapped, tortured and killed by a secret army unit trained and supported by the US Central Intelligence Agency". The US also coordinated death squads in Nicaragua and El Salvador from bases in Honduras.
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RICHARD ARMITAGE, deputy secretary of state, aided the extreme right wing Contra terrorists in Nicaragua in the 1980s.
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PAUL WOLFOWITZ, deputy defence secretary, has summed up his philosophy: "We must destroy states."
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RICHARD PERLE, chair of the US Defence Policy Board, is longstanding Cold War warrior who was former US president Ronald Reagan's assistant secretary of defence. Even his supporters call him the "Prince of Darkness".
He wants war without end-"We will deal with other states," he says. Perle is also a fanatical supporter of the most right wing forces in Israel, including current prime minister Ariel Sharon.
Perle is a director of the Israeli paper the Jerusalem Post, and has advocated ending any peace talks with Palestinians.
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CONDOLEEZZA RICE, national security adviser, is a former director of the oil multinational Chevron. She served the oil industry so well the company named a tanker after her.
During her years at Chevron it was heavily involved in Nigeria and accused of working with the then Nigerian dictatorship's Mobile Police-a force so brutal its nickname locally was the "kill 'n' go".
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Damning verdict
"THROUGHOUT the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or "disappeared" at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame."
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
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Posted: 2003-04-17 10:55:00
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It's hard being the most powerful nation in the world isn't it...and a lot of responsibilities and duties comes with it. It is easy to blame the 'big brother' but then when there is a world crisis almost everyone is waiting for the US to step in and help. People will never be satisfied whatever the US does or doesn't do in world affairs. It is sad that people are so short sighted.
By the way, where did you get your long post from...I want to take a closer look at it. One thing I don't understand...why is everyone blaming people in the Bush administration for have been sitting on the board of corporations? Is there anything wrong with that?
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Posted: 2003-04-17 17:26:00
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@ amagab
Y dont U look at wat corporations they wer on..
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Posted: 2003-04-17 17:45:00
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Of course I look what board they have been on...it is hard to miss considering the media coverage. But I don't understand why people, including you nyk, blame them for being on those boards!? Hey, I hope I will be on a corporations board one day. Being on the board of a corporations is similar to being a politician - you make big decisions affecting a lot of people so it is no surprise that so many politicians start out on or end up on the board of a corporation.
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Posted: 2003-04-17 18:40:00
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@ amagab
Ppl dont h8 them for being successful, and being on the boards of Big Corporations.
Its wen they bring the corporations that they worked on, and involve them in the politics of the country, that ppl hate them.
Just look at all the corporations involved wen the US goes to war..
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Posted: 2003-04-17 19:05:00
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when bush steps down all his gang also steps down. we are not sure if the next president will finish what bush started for he may take a different path. all the countries who became empires like the uk, usa, germany, russia, italy, japan, france, spain etc. did nasty things in order to attain it. that's the only way and it's human nature to be greater than another race. only the usa takes the crap for it is the only remaining superpower. if the ussr was still around then they too will get crap. again, let's all just wait for the outcome and not jump to worhtless conclusions and accusations that the usa will do this and that. it is typical for anti-usa groups to give shit about everything bad the usa does and turns a blind eye and ear to what the usa has done good. human nature is mostly not to see and praise the good someone has done and give hell to the bad someone has done.even saddam also did some good things to iraq i'm sure especially for his own party and tribe either economically, politically or emotionally. like he made iraq's military strong to stand up to iran. if not then iraq would be under the rule of iran now. the arab world is talking with the usa as to what to do with iraq. at least they invited the arabs to talk and ask for their input and not leave them out of iraq's fate.
DO NOT JUDGE PREMATURELY AND WAIT AND SEE
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Posted: 2003-04-18 01:35:00
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nyk> can you please show us a link between the Bush administration and the corporations that will help rebuild Iraq?!?
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Posted: 2003-04-18 03:13:00
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@ d'fuhrer
Ur telling me that all the above invasions/involvments in countries problems is the US's duty ? Becoz its a superpower?
I agree if the countries ask the US ok..
But many countries that are listed above did not....
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Posted: 2003-04-18 09:26:00
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@nyk
hogwash, no i did not. do not kump to conclusions or insinuate on my post. if i did not state it outright then what you read is what i mean.
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Posted: 2003-04-18 10:16:00
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