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Yes but I backed up my 'conspiracy' did I not ?

I dont hav anything against people writing Conspiracies, Ill respect even the most absurd conspiracy if its backed up with evidence that is credible, and not a 'becoz i sed so'


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Posted: 2003-04-18 22:23:00
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nyk_2702

I do apparently need to go refresh myself on some of these older events... However the Gulf war "Iraq 1998" was a UN backed war. The whole reason we fought that war was to prevent Kuwait from being taken over by Iraq... we could have done far worse to Iraq then, but once they were out of Kuwait the war was over. Also regarding Afghanistan... our only problem with the ruling party (Taliban) was that they would not give over Bin Ladden. In fact they were actively trying to help him. That is why the Taliban was disbanded in Afghanistan. But also keep in mind the military action in Afghanistan was also UN backed, yes it was at the request of the US but it is still a UN operation.

You do make a valid point about the US being the first to Develop Nuclear bombs... But it would have only been a matter of time before another nation discovered the destructive potential of that weapon. Just a tidbit of information for you. During the arms race the US developed what was know as a Neutron bomb. It has the same destructive power the Atomic bomb does but none of the side effects (radiation clouds, nuclear fallout, etc.) But what is interesting about all this is that the US destroyed all documentation on the weapon and does not make the weapon because of its ease of use. So as you can see not all of our politicians are bad.

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[ This Message was edited by: scubba_steve on 2003-04-18 22:59 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-18 23:44:00
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@ scubba_steve

Iraq 1998 was NOT the Gulf War
the Gulf War was 1990-1991

The Iraq 1998, was wen the US under playboy Bill Clinton decided to Bomb Iraq
At the time, the US withdrew UN inspectors, and not as the US sed that Iraq threw them out...
This is becoz, like the inspections that occurred b4 this war, the US was unable to find anything

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[ This Message was edited by: nyk_2702 on 2003-04-18 23:13 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-19 00:11:00
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nyk_2702

You are absolutely correct, 1998 was not the Gulf War. Sorry a mental laps occurred. I did a little research online on some of those dates. Here is a very condensed version of what I found. I'll do a little more later when I get the chance.
Some of it was taken out of context but some of it was not, here take a look:

*PHILIPPINES, 1898-1910
Spanish American war. Philippine territory given to US. A few years
later given their independence.
*PUERTO RICO, 1898
Spanish American war.
*NICARAGUA, 1912-33
U.S. marines landed to support the provisional president, Adolfo Díaz,
*CUBA, 1917-33
1902 agreement kept the island under U.S. protection and gave the
United States the right to intervene in Cuban affairs. 1917 an
uprising occured and the US attempted to put it down.
*RUSSIA, 1917-22
Civil unrest (I couldn’t find anything that showed US troops on
Russian soil)
*PUERTO RICO, 1950
Assasination attempt on President Harry S. Truman
*IRAN, 1953
US Special Forces ousted Premier Mussadegh, considered as a radical
militant nationalist, from power.
*GUATEMALA, 1954
President Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán was pro communism. In an effort to
stop communism from spreading the US aided the anti-Arbenz military
force that placed Col. Carlos Castillo Armas in power.



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[ This Message was edited by: scubba_steve on 2003-04-19 00:20 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-19 01:09:00
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nyk> the reason US and UK bombed Iraq during the later 90s was because they violated the cease fire signed after the Gulf War 1991.


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Posted: 2003-04-19 05:28:00
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Nyk, you are anti American. Who are you to judge my country when you middle east folks have been fighting since the beginning of time? You want to look at history? Look at the history of the middle east. You people have been killing each other for so long over religion and land. Why dont you look at the history of YOUR people before you judge America. This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2003-04-19 07:25:00
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@ diggy

So ur a Yank ? Explains a lot.. ( probably one of the brainwashed people)

Y dont U look at most of the wars, and C who aided and supported them..
Excluding the Gulf War (I), U will C that the US has aided a country for its benefit.

Israeli-Arab War...
Palestine-Israeli War
Lebanese-israeli war
Iran-Iraq war.. US kept aiding Iraq wuth Weapons to continue the war


U want History of the US ?

Y dont U look at ur country that is STILL full of Gun Crimes, Drugs and racism.. To this Day the US still hasnt been able to overcome Racism..



@ Scubba_steve

The US entered Russia to fite the Bolshevik army at the time, it wasnt only the US, but like Iraq, it was the leader of them..
They wer attempting to stop the Bolsheviks from taking control of Russia, as it was a communist party


Here is a very interesting quote which I think identifies a very gud reason Y the US is hated

"We have heard that a half million children have died,"
said "60 Minutes" reporter Lesley Stahl, speaking of US sanctions
against Iraq. "I mean, that's more children than died in
Hiroshima. And -- and you know, is the price worth it?"
Her guest, in May 1996, U.N. Ambassador Madeleine
Albright, responded: "I think this is a very hard choice, but
the price -- we think the price is worth it."

Wat wud U say if u wer an Arab and saw this ?

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Posted: 2003-04-19 09:59:00
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quote by nyk
Now i mite hav missd a few arguable cases, and ther mayB points on the list above that ppl dont agree with..
However, its clear to C that the US isnt a gr8 superpower.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY GREAT SUPER POWER IN HISTORY? NOT
If we wer to say how wud the world B without the US, u cud say that ther wudnt B any WMD.. It was the Americans that made the first Atom Bomb.. The Russians developed it only as a self-defense against the US..
IT WAS A GERMAN SCIENTIST WORKING FOR HITLER WHO GOT THE IDEA OF THE A-BOMB. HE DECIDED TO SURRENDER TO THE USA INSTEAD TO THE RUSSIANS FOR FEAR OF BAD TREATMENT. THEY CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT IN THE USA. IF GERMANY WAS NOT DEFEATED EARLIER THEN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 1ST TO USE IT NOT THE USA.THE RUSSIANS GOT HOLD OF IT THRU SPIES

my source; discovery channel, german secret weapons series i watched

Israel wud not hav existed, thus meaning no Mid-East conflict as many Islamic Fundamentalists wud hav no grounds to base ther radical views..
IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT ISRAEL WILL RISE AGAIN AND IT WAS THE BRITS WHO RESURRECTED ISREAL FOR IT WAS PROPHECY FORTOLD IN THE GREAT BOOK. IF MOHAMMED DID NOT STUDY UNDER CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH CLERICS THEN THERE WOULD BE NO ISLAM AND BECAUSE OF THE JEWS ISLAM EXISTS. IT IS EVIDENT IN MOST ISLAMIC NATIONS THAT THEY ARE INTOLERANT NOT IN RELIGION BUT IF YOU BELONG TO A DIFFERENT TRIBE EVENTHOUGH YOU PRACTICE THE SAME FAITH.
Although the such things as ethnic cleansing and civil wars are SOMETHINGS the US has helped with...
AS DONE BY ISLAMIC EMPIRES IN THE PAST AND ARAB COUNTRIES LIKE IRAQ.

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[ This Message was edited by: d' fuhrer on 2003-04-19 10:39 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-19 11:35:00
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@ d'fuhrer

All that u sed in ur last post is facts that have been twisted..
can u prove the fact that the A-Bomb was discovered by a German?
I wud like to C this evidence if its possible
As Israel, if we r to go bak to Holy books, which Holy Book do U live by ?
The Bible, the Taurat or the Quran?

As for Ethnic cleansing it does happen in Arab countries, but wat about the racist issues in the West ?
Pls dont try N make out that the Arabs R worse than the US


Also Islam wud have existed no matter wat ppl Mohammed (peace be upon him) learned from.. He didnt create Islam
He received the words of the Quran from Angels, which he read out to scribes who wrote it down.
Jews & Christians did not help in the creation of Islam.. I hav no idea how u got to that conclusion


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[ This Message was edited by: nyk_2702 on 2003-04-19 10:41 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-19 11:39:00
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[quote]
On 2003-04-19 11:39, nyk_2702 wrote:
@ d'fuhrer

All that u sed in ur last post is facts that have been twisted..
can u prove the fact that the A-Bomb was discovered by a German?
I wud like to C this evidence if its possible
I WATCHED IT AT A SERIES SHOWN ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL TITLED GEMAN (NAZI) SECRET WEAPONS. JAPAN WAS ALSO DEVELOPING AN A-BOMB AT THAT TIME. BECAUSE OF EINSTEIN'S(HE'S GERMAN) FORMULA "E=MC2" NUKES EXISTED. HE ONCE SAID THAT IF HE HAD KNOWN EARLIER THAT HIS FORMULA WOULD CREATE A MEGA WEAPON KILLER HE WOULD'VE JUST FORGOTTEN IT.
As Israel, if we r to go bak to Holy books, which Holy Book do U live by ?
The Bible, the Taurat or the Quran?
I'M ROMAN CATHOLIC, THE NO.1 KILLER OF HUMAN LIVES SINCE IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED
As for Ethnic cleansing it does happen in Arab countries, but wat about the racist issues in the West?
SADDAM WANTS TO KILL ALL THE RIVALS OF HIS TRIBE LIKE THE KURDS AS EVIDENCE OF MASS GRAVES IN THE NORTH OF IRAQ. EVERYWHERE YOU GO THERE IS RACISM AGAINST RACE, RELIGION, TRIBE, JOBS, YOUR STATUS IN SOCIETY LIKE IF YOUR RICH OR POOR.
Pls dont try N make out that the Arabs R worse than the US
I DID NOT STATE ANYTHING RIGHT?

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[ This Message was edited by: d' fuhrer on 2003-04-19 10:56 ]
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Posted: 2003-04-19 11:48:00
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