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Hahahahahaha

Sorry but I have that reaction when ever I see someone quote a mental patients theory's haha.
Eldar has totally lost the plot and ANY credibility I had for him, SE peed him off so he's been on a childish rant spewing lies and crap all over the place ever since.
If you believe what he say's then you also loose credibility in my eye's. Don't believe a word he say's.
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Posted: 2009-06-03 12:16:26
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It looks like it's using the same sensor as the c905 just with more megapixels on it, the c905 is a little less noisey.
Theres a bold claim on the sony site, i don't think so my 50quid canon will produce 100times better pics than a 1/2.5 cmos loaded with 12megapixels.
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Posted: 2009-06-03 12:19:28
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It's the same with ANY mobile phone camera, I'll wait for the released firmware shots myself but your Canon will have a MUCH bigger lens and optical zoom. But I think it will be good enough for me, most people I know these day's just seem to skip digital compacts and go straight to Digital SLR's instead and STILL use the auto modes

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Posted: 2009-06-03 12:38:35
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The older phone cams used to be good, before they went mad with megapixels, i used my K750,K800 & c702 as main cameras, they all did ok i only really take quick snaps anyway nothing artistist and great, the k750 pics were very detailed & sharp. Camphones and compacts are a bit alike both use small sensors image quality manily depends on how good the processing is, only compacts have cdd & not cmos, the lenses on compacts aren't really that big and some are of really poor quality with bad barrel disortion, probley why alot of people do just buy SLR's.
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Posted: 2009-06-03 13:17:30
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The thing you have to remember is that "Sony" and "Sony Ericsson" are two quite different things. Sony Ericsson are a completely separate business and they're expected to fend for themselves independently of both the parent companies, so SE get nothing from Sony for free - they even have to pay each time they use the Sony brands like Walkman and Cybershot. As far as a component like Exmor is concerned, SE are just a potential customer of Sony's, just like every other manufacturer. If it makes commercial sense for SE to use Exmor in the Satio then they may use it, but they aren't going to get it handed to them on a platter and Sony didn't design it specifically for them either. Whether SE use it depends entirely on the price Sony are charging, and the usual cost/benefit analysis in terms of the impact on manufacturing cost (and thereby profit margins) and what advantage, if any, it will give them in sales.

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Posted: 2009-06-03 13:42:13
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Also, according to the same podcast, 12MP Exmor simlpy won't be ready for production when Satio will be released.

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Posted: 2009-06-03 13:54:06
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Not true, native 12 MP sensor.
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Posted: 2009-06-03 13:59:36
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The other point is, there's a lot more to creating a phone like the Satio than choosing the right CMOS sensor - the rest of the hardware and software has to be up to the job of processing whatever that sensor kicks out, while still handling the day job of being a fully functional smartphone. Maybe, when it came to designing and building their very first S60 phone, SE made the quite sensible decision to stick with a slightly uprated version of the same CMOS they already know, rather than adding to the challenge by creating the first Exmor phone as well?
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Posted: 2009-06-03 14:02:24
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http://www.obsessable.com/new[....]mage-sensor-for-mobile-phones/

As per this and tonnes of other links, the Exmor starts shipping in March '09. From what I understand, March '09 has already passed us by.

Boinng: You have a valid point there, but SE is Sony's preferred customer and preferred customers always get the best pricing deals out of all potential customers.

There is absolutely no logic or sense in a theory about interpolating 50% more pixels from a captured image. Seriously, Eldar is grasping at the straws with his latest round of whining. I'd suggest that any sane person should ignore him and wait till the actual device is out.

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Posted: 2009-06-03 14:03:25
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I think what Eldar meant was that the early prototypes actually had an "8 MP" label on the camera cover on the back. I believe xell can confirm this to you
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Posted: 2009-06-03 14:17:57
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