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Very impressive. I love what they've done with the UI, it really makes a difference and seems far from boring.
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Posted: 2009-06-05 21:48:54
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I do not remember saying that Satio is a "boring" device. The point I was trying to make is that SE could have added more features to it like increase the video recording resolution to D1 at least, incorporate 3.5mm head jack on the device and increase the battery capacity, etc. Adding these features would help Satio to be ahead of the competition. With its current features, Satio is actually being surpassed in terms of features other than camera by Samsung OmniaHD and Pixon. What more if LG and Nokia announce their offerings? Considering it will be sold later than LG and Samsung's 12 megapixel phones, can Satio hold off the customers from buying other 12 megapixel phones?

About the numbers that only last for a while, I totally disagree. What comes to your mind if I say N95? What would you answer?

Satio's success or any phone does not depend "only" with its UI. Remember Moto Razr, would you agree it had a good user interface? The reason behind its success was its slim form factor style - its "UNIQUE," not because the UI delivered . The "Unique Experience" I am talking about does not pertain to user interface alone but all of a phone's features working together to create something Unique. Since I gave the Iphone as an example, I will use it again. Do you think Iphone interface would run by just using the CPU of N95? Or how good the multi-touch would be if its LCD screen is resistive type? All of Iphone's features are essential in making that revolutionary touch user interface. How about Satio? What makes it standout from the competition?

Since Satio has not been released yet, it might it be too early to tell whether it would be a success or not. But I think, it will not sell good. When Satio starts to be sold, it will be nothing but an ordinary phone, which lacks common high-end features such as built-in 3.5mm jack, D1 or higher video recoding resolution and high battery capacity; because phones, with similar features and better than Satio in some ways, will have already been out in the market.






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Posted: 2009-06-06 02:22:07
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The RAZR's "User experience" WAS the unique style, form factor and the cultural phenomenon it invoked. That's what I have been saying from the start. The UI is but one part of it. You assumed that it meant only the UI.

The RAZR in many ways, is a good example for showing how paper specs don't determine success. It had many compromises and you can wage a 20 page war on the internet based on it.

The end customers don't care.

The iPhone which you mentioned has several compromises too. It doesn't multitask, can't do things a $100 phone can do and bind you down to apps that Apple decide is good for you (Unless you jailbreak). Points every anti Apple rant bring up 20 times a day.

The end customers don't care.

See where I'm going with this?

You summed it up pretty well with this:

"Since Satio has not been released yet, it might it be too early to tell whether it would be a success or not. "

But then did a 180 and posted this:

"But I think, it will not sell good."

I respectfully disagree and will see you here in a few months to continue this discussion. Until then, there simply is no point.
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Posted: 2009-06-06 05:23:42
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Sorry I couldn't disagree any more with more, look at the iPhone, it's factual proof that you do NOT need thousands of features to make a smart phone sell like hot cakes. I mean you can't even change the iPhones battery. And with your comment of battery capacity, we have no idea what it will be, sure it's 1000mah now but at launch who knows. And even if it was 1000mah GSM said it lasts very well, 2 day's solid with bluetooth on! I have a feeling Nokia will not launch a 12mpx camera phone.
The video recording is also already said to be up with the best VGA devices out there, it also as I understand uses a very good codec. If you want HD then good, seeing as there is ONE phone in the world that has that I couldn't care less and it also has no weight in your argument for keeping the phone ahead of it's competition as you would have to also include every other phone in the world that lacks HD video recording.
Satio is in absolutely NO way being surpassed by Samsung, again you come back to ONE phone in the entire world for your argument. It has the exact same OS as the Satio, a processor from the same family but I think it's less powerful? And it's MUCH bigger then the Satio.
You cannot include the Pixon in your argument as it's not in the same market, it's NOT a smart phone. If you incluse the Pixon then you must only compare it's camera which the Satio beats it hands down on anyway.
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Posted: 2009-06-06 11:10:37
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On top of all that the OmniaHD's "HD" video recording does AMR audio, it doesnt deserve the HD at the end,then again HTC TouchHD doesnt either.
AFAIK the processor in Satio is the same as the one in the OmniaHD which is the Texas Instruments OMAP ARM A8 Cortex OMAP3430 CPU with PowerVR SGX GPU, someone correct me if im wrong about the GPU, anyway Satio will be handle some very heavy media like high frame rate and high bit rate videos/movies with no problem, it should be able to do EVERYTHING the OmniaHD can except for the higher res video which im sure is a software limitation. Theres realy not much difference between the SE and the Sam, personaly id take the SE any day,its UI looks amazing and they have a great reputation for good batt life, and they pay lots of attention to detail which IMO SAMSUNG dont, their phones can seem a bit boring.



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Posted: 2009-06-06 13:39:59
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from the sample Pics by Gsmarena... RED to PINK conversion is clearly visible on Satio's pics.

hope this will be addressed in the retail version.! (i realy doubt that)

i wonder how hard could the calibration of the sensor's color response be!!!
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Posted: 2009-06-06 14:04:00
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Color calibration is not a big hurdle. Pretty sure it would be solved by the time retail units are available. Even if not, it can be fixed in post by anyone with basic knowledge of image editing.

On the other hand, look at the detail resolved by the satio's sensor. Every single beam in the balcony railing is clearly seen, and that too with minimal purple fringing. The Innov8 image makes a mess of them. THAT, is seriously impressive and like GSMA said, puts it in the class of mid end digicams.
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Posted: 2009-06-06 14:32:51
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yes... no word on picture's details... they are amazing...

BUT....
this RED to Pink problem was with SE since K850 (unfortunatly, only high-end cybershots suffer from it- and now this flagship handset)

the RED2PINK is on max in K850 and C902 (and probably C903)... i fixed it in my modded C902 camdriver... but driver editting is not an option when it comes to symbian.


i just hope it will be corrected in the retail version.


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Posted: 2009-06-06 14:40:00
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sorry again, but, I would like to know if the music department has got the CLear Audio thing as in my w980/W705???
Sorry if it has already been posted, i need to know wether waoiting for this is worth .

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Posted: 2009-06-06 16:02:20
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Yes, it does.
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Posted: 2009-06-06 16:20:18
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