>
New Topic
>
Reply<
Esato Forum Index
>
Sony Ericsson / Sony >
Symbian phones
> SE Persuasion Tactics
Bookmark topic
This was the same behavior with my other phone (Nokia N80). So SE is not alone on this problems. Just to remember that this is a new OS and it usualy takes some time to get all the things right. I mean, the phone is not unusable, right? Its really stable now. Sure, it has taken some time, but its the same with Nokia phones and other brands. So nothing special here
_________________
P990i with 4gig Sandisk and HBH-DS970
[ This Message was edited by: Tail on 2007-03-14 13:15 ]
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 14:14:16
Edit :
Quote
It's not all that new anymore, let's be fair. The M600i was released what, back in June? Earlier? It's approaching one year on the market, and we're already getting pics and rumours on its forthcoming successor (the M610i). In fairness to SE we've had a few updates in that time too, but none of them have addressed the core issues - it's still an unstable OS in my experience.
The Nokia's may be just as bad, but I seriously doubt it to be honest - from what I've heard they've done a lot more to patch things up through updates, and certainly I don't get the impression that their rep has been as badly damaged as SE's has through the P990/M600. Either way, if Symbian smartphones aren't reliable anymore, I'll go to Microsoft or whoever else can produce a product that works properly. It's not enough to just accept garbage from SE for the sake of it, when we all know they can do an awful lot better.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-03-14 13:57 ]
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 14:52:37
Edit :
Quote
Just look at the Nokia N80, there is still coming updates to that phone. I know, I still have it. And that phone is allsow "old" now
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 14:57:37
Edit :
Quote
@Boinng
Please read carefully my posts, I am kindly asking you to do this. After you do that you will see that I am fully aware of SE mistakes regarding UIQ3 phones and I have no intention to change your or anybody other mind. Everybody has a free will to decide what phone or brand one will follow. So do I. I had P900 and P910 and was extremely satisfied. But although I manually restart my P990 every week (average) while P910 can last for months or I open 4-5 apps at once in P990 while P910 can handle 15, things that I do on regular basis with my P990, P910 can only dream of. It's like comparing strong adult and a small child. In terms of my professional needs as well as entertainment needs P990 is the super phone, fantastic all in one device and it proves it to me every day. What I show with some screen shots is that the phone is stable and reliable Otherwise I wold be the last person to prize it. Call it funboyism or what ever but what I do with my phone really makes me very satisfied.
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 15:08:49
Edit :
Quote
Two wrongs don't make a right, Tail. I'm not singling out SE on this just to bash them, I'm singling out SE because I have an SE phone that doesn't work properly, and SE don't seem to be doing anything about it. If I went to Nokia ok, maybe I'd be best off avoiding the N80, but at least they have other smartphones that do seem to be working.. with SE, all their eggs are in the UIQ3 basket, and that basket's badly broken.
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 15:09:52
Edit :
Quote
@ koto
You just took the words right out of my mouth. But at the same time I can understand that there are people that are not satisfied as there still seems to be some problems for some users. And that I find very strange as we are running the same f/w
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 15:22:29
Edit :
Quote
@ Boinng
On your avatar I can see that you are running the M600. That suprise me is that that phone is suposed to be even more stable then the P990i
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 15:26:06
Edit :
Quote
@Koto, I'm not quibbling with anything you're saying, and I'm happy for you that you like the phone and it lives up to your expectations - it just doesn't live up to mine, that's all. And yes, I don't have to keep the phone, and I don't have to stay with SE, and I can go get a [insert brand] and stop whining about things here, but the thing is I care about SE, and I want UIQ3 to work out, and I'd love to have a working M600 and be looking forward to an even better M610, and for all those reasons I'm probably going to carry on whining here for a while yet.
Personally, and I don't think this is an uncommon view, I believe UIQ3 should have been better than UIQ2 in every way, not just some. Crucially, the flashier new features should never have come at the price of reliablity, and in this case they have. There are times - too many times - when I'm left wishing I'd stuck by my faithful old P800 - another phone based around an entirely "new" OS, and far more groundbreaking in many ways than either the M600 or P990, but still many times more reliable than either of them. Even when the P800 was being eaten alive by its bugs, and various apps and processes were crashing around me, it would still take a phone call - at its core, on the most fundamental level, the OS was as bulletproof as the old EPOC Psion organisers it came from (I had a few of them as well). Frankly, for all their bells and whistles, these UIQ3 devices are an embarrassment to their ancestor.
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 15:28:35
Edit :
Quote
Only time i was not able to make/receive a call was when i drain the battery and didnīt have a charger near...
On other hand iīve seen people with other phones rebooting during calls right in front of me, like the n73, etc
The the 2 main problems of UIQ3 are - youth of the OS (lack of optimization), lack of RAM...just has the new versions of windows take alot more RAM than older ones, SE (and Nokia) should have provided at least 92mb RAM (instead of 64) for the new symbian 9.1 devices.
The UIQ3 phones firmware has been slowly optimized, and i think there is still plenty of room to improvement, but achieving the multitasking capability of the P910 will only be reached by the new devices, with more RAM
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 15:55:44
Edit :
Quote
@Tail and Boinng
Why some phones are stable and reliable and other are not while all of them running the same fw is a big question and mystery for me. The only honest answer is: "I don't know".
Also even in my case, the phone is super, stable etc. but I don't believe it will reach the state of perfection. I don't believe memory leak will be solved or apps (opera for example) will be fully optimized. No, I assume that for that we should wait for next P or M series. So I support P990 because it brought something new, a great step forward regarding capacity and possibility of a single device and I happily use it in my everyday life but full finished product in the strict sense of the term IMO will come later in the form of a new device.
--
Posted: 2007-03-14 16:04:37
Edit :
Quote
New Topic
Reply
