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@ dogmann
ok, when im CEO of
ill make sure every phone has all the technologies we have available.....
you not getting it are you? like thecoolsha says, all companies have the technology, but use it differently. Obviously nokia chooses to use all of it, good on them, the others dont, so what? thats their decision, but doesnt mean they arent capable.
are you saying
, samsung, motorola cant make a phone with gps, 5mp, wifi etc?
ooooo, if nokia are so leading edge, why does n95 have a cmos lense
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:29:02
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When i read
this topic i feel why a company like Sony would like its name to be featured so low in the market for an electronic device.Afterall Sony has historically always aimed at being at the very top for every device they have manufactured even if they failed a few times (ex- ipod vs walkman).
I don't understand why Sony don't have the same ambitions for the cellphone market.Why don't they just straight up buy Ericsson which i surely feel they have the financial capacity to do so and then use ericsson's expertise in producing technologically advanced phones.Because no matter how long a fan i've been of se and will continue to be so i always feel a Sony or Sony mobile competing with Nokia would do much better than a Sony Ericsson competing with Nokia....because as we all know SE has almost always been fighting a losing battle with the co. from Finland apart from a few exceptions like k750,w800 and t610 and the earlier P series.Even the results speak for themselves,they've never managed to even get close to the market leaders.Now why would Sony wan't to live like that in such a profitable and growing cell phone market is a fact i just fail to understand...
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:32:35
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On 2007-05-20 17:15:46, thecoolsha wrote:
all the manufacturers have the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY, they just choose to produce different phones - different buyers.
ermmmm............
it is all about customer focus and releasing what the customer wants.. that is why Nokia are market leaders.. SE ain't in the mobile business just to exist and release phones aren't gonna win awards. Your talking about 1 of the biggest elec companies in the world, Sony, they have always always wanted to be number 1, and at the moment they are failing on the mobile side, and i truly believe that they are slacking big style, T68i, P800, were all turning points for SE, but they have yet to change direction again, the P990i/M600i is just a P800 and the W880i is just a newer T68i, if SE want to gain market share they NEED and i repeat NEED to compete with Nokia.
and no I'm not a Nokia fanboy, I use a blackberry.
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:38:55
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@thecoolsha
How wrong you are i am most certainly not a fan boy i just choose the device that suits me best irrespective of who makes it as believe it or not that is actually the most sensible way IMO to choose your device.
Just for your information until last June nearly all my devices were Ericsson or SE, all of my Data devices had been Ericsson or SE. I have owned a V3 and a couple of Nokia's since the launch of the mobile Networks when initially the only real choice was Motorola's.
All that i can say is that since last June i have started to use Nokia's as they have given me what i want and the only reason i even had to choose another device was the M600 was so disappointing and was unusable.
As soon as SE release something that is good enough i will buy it but not until it has been out a couple of months and has been proved to work as it should. I no longer trust SE to deliver what they promise so won't be an early adaptor of any SE device again trust needs to be earned as in SE's case it is no longer a given, once bitten twice shy I'm afraid is my position now.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:41:19
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@fatreg
i do agree that
needs to show some exciting goodies soon, im just trying to point out to others that they most certainly have the resources available to do so, and so would the other manufacturers.... guess none of us here on esato, or very few, would know for sure why
arent giving what so many people want....
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:44:30
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I don't know
SE at the moment just don't seem willing.
shame really, as it is loosing people at a rate of knots, since i had my P990i, I've not touched another SE for fear that it'll be as bad as the P900i was/is...
one day, hopefully, one day! I'll have me a nice shiny se with all the bits and pieces it can put in a phone!
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:48:49
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i see what you mean reg, but the main people its loosing are us mobile know alls, the average customer might not give a rats and still buy a
, but of course there will be some who know nothing aabout phones, but just want the best....
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Posted: 2007-05-20 17:57:18
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On 2007-05-20 17:15:46, thecoolsha wrote:
@dogmann
It's obvious that you're a fanboy, too. For the sake of God, why can't you see that all the manufacturers have the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY, they just choose to produce different phones - different buyers.
That was the last reply from me in this thread, I'll follow the suggestion from sanjeevjaya's signature:
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Later man...
just tell me one thing. what does your W880 do for you that my ex-W800 couldnt? i just want to know how SE improved over the course of 30months.
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Posted: 2007-05-20 19:00:45
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@thecoolsha
Missed this classic from your previous post
"why can't you see that all the manufacturers have the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY, they just choose to produce different phones - different buyers."
Well this may be your opinion but the facts most certainly don't back this up, otherwise there wouldn't be all these threads and post's moaning about the fact that SE is missing all these important features. What ever you may think it is glaring obvious that SE are not fitting their devices with even established technology and are not giving there customers what they want or need which is why so many of us have had to look elsewhere for our devices. As far as Fan boys go er hello pot calling kettle.
Marc
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Posted: 2007-05-20 20:02:53
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@deepsme- please refrain from posts silly posts! Sony did make phones and failed miserably to make an impact! yeah some of their phones were great but didn't take them too far. Ericsson on the other hand were far ahead of any manufacturer, nokia included, until the fire in that Philips factory cost them the ability to compete. as a matter of fact their market share was 35 percent then. Do a bit of research before posting some times. As for SE they've got only themselves to blame for falling behind.
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Posted: 2007-05-20 21:47:00
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