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sapporobaby Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-11 15:44:40, SaLiH wrote:
@sapporobaby - I know that P1 can’t beat N95, but N95’s low point is it's battery, that's why i said I would go for P1.



Once again, the N95 has a small battery. SMALL. There is only so much you can pack into a small size. It is physics. It is not as though Nokia makes batteries. They by them just like SE, and the other guys do.

If you would have read my post, you would see that I can easily get 36 hours if I kill apps that are running in the back ground. With UIQ, you have to kill process just so your phone will work.
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Posted: 2007-06-11 16:04:44
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sapporobaby Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-11 16:02:40, Vexii wrote:
P1 for me. I have always been SE fan and Nokia isn't for me. I hold N95 and it feels cheap and big. UIQ3 all the way.



Very reasonable post. I was an SE fan until UIQ killed it for me. All the P-series phones I had were a joke. It is though memory leaks were invented for this phone. The M600i was what pushed me over the edge to Nokia and the E61. To date there is not an SE phone that can match the E61/E61i in terms of functionality, performance, and battery life.

Not SE bashing, just stating facts. If you can prove me wrong, by all means do so but with a fact or two. Not the usual tripe: "Nokia sucks". That is not an argument.
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Posted: 2007-06-11 16:07:55
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oneofthose Posts: 50


On 2007-06-11 16:04:44, sapporobaby wrote:

On 2007-06-11 15:44:40, SaLiH wrote:
@sapporobaby - I know that P1 can’t beat N95, but N95’s low point is it's battery, that's why i said I would go for P1.



Once again, the N95 has a small battery. SMALL. There is only so much you can pack into a small size. It is physics. It is not as though Nokia makes batteries. They by them just like SE, and the other guys do.

If you would have read my post, you would see that I can easily get 36 hours if I kill apps that are running in the back ground. With UIQ, you have to kill process just so your phone will work.

.... no arguing with that! Oh, well, of course: nokia sucks - my e61 was probably made by SE
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Posted: 2007-06-11 16:09:14
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koto Posts: > 500

P1 is the real beast when it comes to multitasking. In that sense N95 and P990 are just ordinary phones. That + touch screen, qwerty and small size are what IMO makes P1 the best at the moment. But I decided not to go for it as I am extremely happy with my P990 so why should I spend a lot of money on a new phone.
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Posted: 2007-06-11 19:44:11
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sapporobaby Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-11 19:44:11, koto wrote:
P1 is the real beast when it comes to multitasking. In that sense N95 and P990 are just ordinary phones. That + touch screen, qwerty and small size are what IMO makes P1 the best at the moment. But I decided not to go for it as I am extremely happy with my P990 so why should I spend a lot of money on a new phone.


Did you think before you hit the enter key?

Beast is right. Please wait for your UIQ to reboot for optimum performance. Better not run too many apps. Neither my E61 nor my N95 has crashed because of too many applications. UIQ=memory leak. One word: reboot.
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Posted: 2007-06-11 19:59:21
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tkshinobi Posts: 51


On 2007-06-11 14:42:34, sapporobaby wrote:

On 2007-06-11 14:27:19, nikolap990 wrote:
p1 is better but wy se doesnot give us gps its shame


Is that the best you can come up with? Better in what ways? It is using 4 year old technology and still screwed up.

Anyway, as or the battery life in the N95, has anyone considered that it is only a 950 mAh battery? The E61/E61i is 1500 mAh, with various other sizes thrown in in various phones. I am lucky to get almost 4 hours out of my 17 inch MacBook Pro. My dedicated Garmin GPSmap 60 CSx will give me only 12 hours straight. I can get about 36 to 40 hours out of my N95 simply by killing unnecessary processes, or not amazing your friends with the cool GPS thingie. People complain and complain and complain about the battery life but for the most part it is not much worse than any other phone with a comparable size battery. As for build quality, take a quick look at the M600i. A thin piece of crap. It is an electronic dust bowl. I can't remember one SE phone that did not have the ability to capture any and all dust thrown its way.

The bottom line is, you pay your money, you take your chances. Nokia has it problems but at least you can count on Nokia to fix them within a year as opposed to the still thriving k800/k790 threads, still thriving P-series threads, and the hope to quickly die M600i threads.



Did you own the M600?I don`t own N95 so i don`t make any comment related to it, since i don`t have any hands-on opinion.

As a matter of fact, i can say in the same way you did that all Nokia users are to ignorant to care about solving their problems.

Am i fair or not?
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Posted: 2007-06-11 20:03:02
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sapporobaby Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-11 20:03:02, tkshinobi wrote:

On 2007-06-11 14:42:34, sapporobaby wrote:

On 2007-06-11 14:27:19, nikolap990 wrote:
p1 is better but wy se doesnot give us gps its shame


Is that the best you can come up with? Better in what ways? It is using 4 year old technology and still screwed up.

Anyway, as or the battery life in the N95, has anyone considered that it is only a 950 mAh battery? The E61/E61i is 1500 mAh, with various other sizes thrown in in various phones. I am lucky to get almost 4 hours out of my 17 inch MacBook Pro. My dedicated Garmin GPSmap 60 CSx will give me only 12 hours straight. I can get about 36 to 40 hours out of my N95 simply by killing unnecessary processes, or not amazing your friends with the cool GPS thingie. People complain and complain and complain about the battery life but for the most part it is not much worse than any other phone with a comparable size battery. As for build quality, take a quick look at the M600i. A thin piece of crap. It is an electronic dust bowl. I can't remember one SE phone that did not have the ability to capture any and all dust thrown its way.

The bottom line is, you pay your money, you take your chances. Nokia has it problems but at least you can count on Nokia to fix them within a year as opposed to the still thriving k800/k790 threads, still thriving P-series threads, and the hope to quickly die M600i threads.



Did you own the M600?I don`t own N95 so i don`t make any comment related to it, since i don`t have any hands-on opinion.

As a matter of fact, i can say in the same way you did that all Nokia users are to ignorant to care about solving their problems.

Am i fair or not?


I have had both. The M600i was the final straw that caused me to purchase the E61, and my N95, while having a few problems in a first production model is still miles ahead of anything SE is currently producing. I have had all but one P-series phone. In my experience UIQ is nice but not great. A touch screen is not that important to me. I challenge anyone to try and type an SMS against me. Me with my keyboard, and the TS users with their hand writing recognition or stylist. UIQ is know to: "reboot to optimize performance". Open more apps, get more reboots. It is just the way it is. S60 does not suffer this as much. Sorry but it is what it is. I have asked many times to prove that I am incorrect but to date, no takers.

SE can do better with the way they make phones but they don't. Bottom line. They feel, I guess, that what they give is good enough for most customers. Well it wasn't for me and I switched. If I have a problem, I can be sure that Nokia will address it much faster than SE ever would.

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Posted: 2007-06-11 20:11:05
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koto Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-11 19:59:21, sapporobaby wrote:

On 2007-06-11 19:44:11, koto wrote:
P1 is the real beast when it comes to multitasking. In that sense N95 and P990 are just ordinary phones.


Did you think before you hit the enter key?

Beast is right. Please wait for your UIQ to reboot for optimum performance. Better not run too many apps. Neither my E61 nor my N95 has crashed because of too many applications. UIQ=memory leak. One word: reboot.

You are right, how could I ever thought that 80 mb free ram of P1 is better than 20 mb of N95.
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Posted: 2007-06-11 20:32:31
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sapporobaby Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-11 20:32:31, koto wrote:

On 2007-06-11 19:59:21, sapporobaby wrote:

On 2007-06-11 19:44:11, koto wrote:
P1 is the real beast when it comes to multitasking. In that sense N95 and P990 are just ordinary phones.


Did you think before you hit the enter key?

Beast is right. Please wait for your UIQ to reboot for optimum performance. Better not run too many apps. Neither my E61 nor my N95 has crashed because of too many applications. UIQ=memory leak. One word: reboot.

You are right, how could I ever thought that 80 mb free ram of P1 is better than 20 mb of N95.


Proof time. Clock is ticking..........
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Posted: 2007-06-11 20:36:15
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koto Posts: > 500

Why not:

http://my-symbian.com/uiq3/review_p1i.php

But of course we'll see. As for now N95 is so far away for that multitasking capacity i.e. unfortunately it will never come close to this.
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Posted: 2007-06-11 20:42:56
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