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Posted: 2007-07-31 15:21:19
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Yeah, you shouldn't have any issues finding software for pretty much everything you'll want to do.
It's true that there isn't as much choice when looking for Mac software, but I've never had a problem. There's less software, but also far less utter cack software. Most software on the Mac is high quality.
I would rather have to choose between 10 good Mac applications for a task, rather than waste time hunting through 500 shite Windows ones.
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Posted: 2007-07-31 17:05:25
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I suppose.. if you have an unlimited budget.. and don't play games.. and never want to buy an upgrade.. you'll be extremely well off with a Mac.
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Posted: 2007-07-31 20:53:25
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I suppose.. if you knew nothing about Macs nowadays, you might still believe those myths.
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Posted: 2007-07-31 23:36:02
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Well, laptop upgrades are generally too expensive (or simply unavailable) - and you won't use a laptop for games all that much, in any case. So what would count, presumably, would be having bluetooth, wifi- support, usb2, and so on for your gizmos. And video- capability along with nifty and stable word- processing programs. As well as good battery- life. So if you've decided to aim for the relatively upper- tier price range (and perhaps don't think it's very entertaining to spend hours on customizing your system- components in windows to avoid things taking an hour to boot up), a Mac is obviously a good choice.
Still. For me, getting a Mac means doubling the budget I had in mind, and also losing the option to run x86 enhanced emulators for console- games. It also means losing the option to use platform- independent programs effectively. And it means sponsoring Mac for making music less available, or in general sponsoring a firm into commercializing specific types of solutions, rather than implementations of them. Has to count for something. Imo, anyway.
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Posted: 2007-08-01 13:21:59
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"losing the option to run x86 enhanced emulators for console- games"
You appear to be a little out-of-date in your knowledge of Macs nowadays.
All Macs, since the middle of last year, now run on Intel chips. So any emulators written/compiled for Intel Macs are also x86 enhanced...
Also, now that Macs run on Intel chips it is an easy task to install Windows on them (if you need to), either as Dual Boot (Boot Camp) or as a full-speed Virtual Machine (Parallels).
So not only can you run any Mac OS X software on a Mac, you can also run any Windows software too (plus Linux if necessary).
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Posted: 2007-08-01 13:33:25
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Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against the mac but i do think that this thread is a bit unbalanced!
So i thought I d add some information!
1. there are no decent games that can be played on mac os x
2. from a windows system, there is knowledge that 99% of peripherals work with your system - u buy something from pc world and even without looking at the box, chances are it ll work with ur pc.
3. the latest drivers / hardware / software enhancements, new features etc etc is made for windows first, macs will have to wait.
4. why is there no right mouse button lol
5. warranty support - telephone support is only 3 months afaik? and it costs a LOT (£280? i think) for the warranty extension for a macbook pro!
6. general support on the internet / shops are limited - chances are there would be more people that are able to help / repair a pc than u would with a mac.
7. there are only a selection of macs available, so it is instanly recognised as old when a new model comes out - this is particularly a bad thing since the mac is based so much on design.
8. ports on a mac - seriously 1300+ on a 15" machine, you would really expect more than TWO usb ports, even card readers and HDMI are now around for a lower price!
9. from a magazine; there are 55000 pieces of freeware for the pc compared to 4586 for the mac...
10. Ok, so you can dual boot with windows on a mac, but in that case you would loose all the advantages of having mac os x. And it would cost too.
Pesonally i wouldnt see how having windows dual boot on a mac would be a great solution. say mac is the main os u use, all ur music, docs and pics is on that - so i wouldnt suppose that if u wanted to connect a piece of windows only hardware like a specific printer or a mp3 player you would reboot just to print some work or update ur music? Also wouldnt u have to have duplicate files on the same hard drive so that u can access it from mac and windows?
Seriously, before u start throwing things at me etc, can i just make it clear that i have only listed the disadvantages of a mac because you have already listed the advantages of a mac in the thread - which i acknowledge!
I ve only used a macbook for a couple of months so i might be wrong on some things, recently i actually considered a macbook pro ones with LED screens for a while because i do like the design but it is just those things that hold me back from switching away from windows system.
[ This Message was edited by: Esater on 2007-08-01 14:46 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-01 15:45:14
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@Esater
Firstly, you are right - you are wrong on quite a few things. Please do some research before posting inaccurate information.
1. Almost all of the big name PC games come out for Mac. The Sims, Call of Duty 2, Quake 4, Civilization IV, Doom 3, Rollercoaster Tycoon, Command & Conquerer, Medal of Honour, and 100s more...
2. "99% of peripherals work with your (PC) system = I don't think so! PCs are notoriusly shite at getting anything to work. Plug 'n' Pray! Plus, pretty much any USB, Firewire, Network device will just plug-in and work on a Mac without installing drivers, even if it doesn't say so on the box.
3. Not true. Apple were first to popularise USB, Firewire, no floppies, Wi-fi across all their machines. Do some history checking before posting rubbish. Apple frequently release Macs with technology BEFORE PC manufacturers do. It's common knowledge that PCs generally play catch-up to Macs, in new technologies and Operating System enhancements.
4. You really are showing your ignorance here! Macs have had right-click for years. Even before Mac OS X was released in 2001.
5. Depends on whose warranty you compare with.
6. Macs don't break down as much as PCs or need fixing/re-installing. And if they do you can generally do it yourself. In 17 years of Mac use, I have never had to get technical help, or return a Mac for fixing.
7. PCs are obselete as soon as you buy them too! Macs and PCs are are based on exactly the same hardware that is available to all manufacturers. Only the OS and design makes them different.
8. Dunno what you're talking about here. Perhaps you should look at the Mac specs.
9. 55000 pieces of freeware for the pc - Ooh! Big deal! Most of it is shite. How long is it going to take you to wade through 54999 pieces of shite software to find the one good one? I bet you don't even use more than 100 pieces of software anyway - what use is 55000??
10. Cost? Boot Camp is free! Only cost is if you don't already have a copy of Windows. Plus you don't need to dual-boot. You can run Windows apps right within Mac OS X using Parallels.
You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. There is not a single popular printer that doesn't work on Mac - so you would never have to re-boot into Windows to print something out. Plus, you can easily share data between Mac and Windows on the same Mac if you want, music, videos, files, everything is accessible whether you're booted into Mac OS or Windows.
Secondly, this isn't a Mac vs PC thread. The original poster has already decided he wants to get a Mac, but wanted some advice on which one.
So not only is your post full of errors, it is totally irrelevant anyway.
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Posted: 2007-08-01 16:57:49
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There is just no telling some people, they have to experience it for themselves, to truly see the light. There is not one piece of software i've been without. I often went looking for the mac equivalent of certain software i used on pc and found that dedicated mac applications where far far better.
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Posted: 2007-08-01 17:12:49
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JoolsG4
Calm down, theres no need for that. I did state that I could be wrong on some things and i was open to be corrected.
I don't understand why you were attacking me personally calling me ignorant, and that i post rubbish. It would have been nicer and just as easy to make your point if you werent so rude. i came in the thread opened minded and saying what i THOUGHT was the points that was holding me back in deciding in switching to macs as i recently was in the similar position as the original poster.
Well, from my perspective all i received was an apple fanboy's view on things which was just so biased.
I couldnt help but think that your point; "Macs don't break down as much as PCs or need fixing/re-installing. And if they do you can generally do it yourself." - is just wrong.
What I don't understand is how you have managed to come up with this, is there actually basis for this? As far as I know, macs still use components like hard drives and other modules just like a PC and probably manuafactured by the same companies that make them for PCs.
So what you're saying is that a seagate hdd inside an apple would be superior to one thats in a PC? ok
I don't have shares in microsoft, I dont get money for promoting them and as i mentioned before i acknowledged all the advantages in a mac particularly the design that was why i was interested in them.
Thanks for your nasty post, which really didnt help me at all in gaining more understanding other than that you are a very rude person who is madly obssessed with apple.
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Posted: 2007-08-01 18:44:41
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