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I'm happy to see it fail because Apple are attempting to pioneer a particularly greedy retail strategy that could end up encouraging even more 18mth lockins and huge up-front premiums if successful. I've never paid more than £50 for a phone, and I still insist on a 12mth contract on all my upgrades; that's still furnished me with a phone currently which is more powerful, and more functional than the Iphone in literally every way.
If the Iphone was free (on a contract) would I buy it? No. It doesn't do what I need and expect from a phone right now; to be honest it's not even close. Forget the shoddy SMS and lack of picture messaging, where's the push email? Where's the Exchange support? In relative terms, it'd be lower tech than any phone I've ever had - fine if you get excited by the look of the thing, and its fashion accessory value, but of no interest to me.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-12-06 15:12 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 15:56:43
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shanespencer Posts: > 500
On 2007-12-06 15:56:43, Boinng wrote:
where's the push email?
The iPhone can check for email every 15 minutes, if that helps.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:18:07
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On 2007-12-06 16:18:07, shanespencer wrote:
The iPhone can check for email every 15 minutes, if that helps.
My T39 could do that in 2001
Push email (and push calendar, tasks etc with Exchange) is a little different.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-12-06 15:23 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:19:50
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shanespencer Posts: > 500
On 2007-12-06 16:19:50, Boinng wrote:
Push email (and push calendar, tasks etc with Exchange) is a little different.
Yes, that's right. It does the job for me though - I don't get email every 3 minutes.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:22:35
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Those apple guys are just too greedy...simple
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:36:29
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On 2007-12-06 13:34:52, Krubach wrote:
Yep ... it all comes down to Price tag Vs. Features .
IPhone is overpriced for the features it has and the only innovating thing is the multi-tough screen.
The multi-touch screen loses its innovation once you've used it for a week.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:41:53
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On 2007-12-06 16:22:35, shanespencer wrote:
Yes, that's right. It does the job for me though - I don't get email every 3 minutes.
That's fair enough, and the Iphone may well be a fine choice for you, but for me there are too many compromises like this in what is supposed to be a high-end, high-technology, highly expensive device. For £269 + all the contract committment I expect the Iphone to support EVERY email standard, and do them better than anything else besides, but instead they expect users to make do with POP and IMAP, make do with email for sending pictures, make do with a limited SMS client, make do with EDGE for data, etc etc.. pretty shoddy IMO.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-12-06 15:49 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:47:47
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shanespencer Posts: > 500
I've had mine for two weeks now, and it is still fresh and fun to use. It lacks a few (important to some) features, but it's still much easier and faster to operate than many phones on the market today. Considering all the flashy animations and effects, I'm amazed it runs as smoothly as it does. it's a heck of a lot faster than my old N95, anyway!
Incidentally, I think the price of the iPhone here is reasonable, but the O2 contract is disgusting. I got an unlocked one and took out a T-Mobile tarriff, which worked out a much better deal.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:50:29
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shanespencer Posts: > 500
On 2007-12-06 16:47:47, Boinng wrote:
That's fair enough, and the Iphone may well be a fine choice for you, but for me there are too many compromises like this in what is supposed to be a high-end, high-technology, highly expensive device. For £269 + all the contract committment I expect the Iphone to support EVERY email standard, and do them better than anything else besides, but instead they expect users to make do with POP and IMAP, make do with email for sending pictures, make do with a limited SMS client, make do with EDGE for data, etc etc.. pretty shoddy IMO.
I think your points sum up Apple's miscalculations here. The European market is far more demanding than the US one is, on the whole. Customers here expect a lot more for their money, and with the combination of the iPhone and O2's crappy contract, they're not getting it!
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:53:52
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Iphone
Pros...
1. changed appeal of mobile phones with new touch interface.
2. has every thing its promised working > 90%
3. Shows how good apple is in marketing products
4. This is their first phone !!!!
5. What ever said, it has been a big sucess
6. Price of 399 for an unlocked one and if you want to make a small effort , you can unlock it for free or a vendor can do that for 30-50 $
7. Huge screen ( l love it )
8. thin and sexy
9. Has introduced so much competition in mobile phone market.. see the no. of iphone like interfaces proping up.
Cons.
I dont have to mention anything, its all up here
Personally i wont buy one becoz it does not meet my needs. But happy to see such a product as indirectly i am going to get a good product from some other manufacturer or may apple itself going to release a much more feature packed handset and the new leopard has so much in it just for the next generation iphone
AND i dont own any apple product, except some apples that i regularly buy from the Chinese market !!!
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Posted: 2007-12-06 17:13:05
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