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lacks:
touch screen
qwerty keypad
decent gps
solid housing
scratch free display
reliable (steady/no freeze etc)
flash light
30fps film
faster processor
dvb
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Posted: 2008-02-13 14:03:24
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@Boinng


Sorry but you are just plain and simply wrong to suggest the E90 is not a capable Buisness devcie that is just ridiculous to suggest please explain how you have reached this amazing and wrong conclusion then.

It has a wide option of Push E-Mail solutions including Blackberry and MES to name two, it has full comparability with Office 2007 with a cheap upgrade of the inbuilt QuickOffice and it has a wealth of apps both free and paid for to give the user what ever functions he desires. I think you may also be amazed at it's size compared to your TYtN2 and as a phone it is in a different class to your PDA first phone as an after thought TYtN2.

So go on please explain all this missing functionallity that you perceive it to have, oh yeah i know here we go again no Touchscreen.

Well i haven't used a Touchscreen in over 20 months now and it will take something really special to make me even look at one. Not once have i found myself thinking oh if only i had a touchscreen and less visibility and colours or for that matter size. One last thing same argument as i had with you and UIQ and now WM if both of these OS and there Touchscreens are so vital and superior why aren't they the dominant forces they should be? why is Symbian still number one then?

Marc

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Posted: 2008-02-14 02:01:22
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@dogmann

...because SE only produced TS smartphone so TS is the best thing that ever happened and no smartphone should do without it...you get it


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Posted: 2008-02-14 08:10:04
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TS is good. Combine with keyboard perfect. Why are some people in delusion try to deny TS advantage?

For a zillion times, (for those who are in delusion saying S60 has everything business user wants), WM has its advantage over S60 especially at serious business application, doesnt matter who produced the hardware. Example: ADC solution like Easy trac Warehouse. Find that on S60

Btw, Best Mobile Enterprise Product or Service award goes to Microsoft: Windows Mobile 6 and NOT Nokia S60. See http://www.globalmobileawards.com/winners.shtml#winner_cat2a

IMO E90 is fit for less demanding small home business kinda thing NOT for a real power users!



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Posted: 2008-02-14 10:17:21
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It should be an essential feature of every smartphone, but still, it could be omitted (which, IMO, isn't good).
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Posted: 2008-02-14 10:34:00
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Dogmann,

Symbian - and in particular S60 - is the biggest OS for one simple and obvious reason, it's in far more consumer friendly phones. For many years, Nokia have been selling bucket loads of S60 handsets to people who neither know nor care what a smartphone is, let alone have use for one - they're simply souped-up feature phones. It's been that way since day one, for S60 - the 7650 set the mould, always a camera phone first and foremost. How many even noticed it did more?

As for your E90, I suggest you google "cargo cult communicator". While WinMo has nurtured a huge following in the business world over many years, Nokia have thrown most of theirs away. It may appeal to the gadget hounds, but for pros it's simply not fit for purpose.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-02-14 10:43 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-14 11:41:17
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I'll save people the trouble:

Cargo Cult Communicator.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 12:09:14
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Im not a business user yet, maybe in another 5years i will be,but looking at my father's smartphone collection kind of tells me what most business users prefer, he is a businessman and has an interesting smartphone collection: Nokia7650, Blackberry8210 (i think), Nokia E70, E61, and HTC TyTN.
He now ONLY uses his E61 and E70 is the back-up ,he is always recieving E-Mails and so is always got Blackberry connect on, he likes the screen,size, and QWERTY board of his E61 and realy didn't enjoy the TyTN that much,always having to slide out that keypad and he doesn't like touchscreen at all, so realy not every smartphone requires it.
Im also using a smartphone, Nokia N81 and love this beautiful Multimedia smartphone, to me its perfect, i like what NOKIA are doing with the Nseries phones, i realy don't like touchscreen and im not a business user im still a student and couldn't realy careless about E-mailing, TS or QWERTY but still want a smartphone, for Multimedia, multimedia apps, PDF reading and Web Browsing and the Nseries devices are perfect for this, they make smartphones a lot more entertaining to use and show that a smartphone is not just for business,anyway thats my 2cents worth.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 12:56:56
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TS is good but only combined with a good keypad...then i agree that is an advantage (New SE G series for exemple). TS by itself on using phone basic features like calls and texting is a pain in the ass and i really prefer not to have it on that case.
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Posted: 2008-02-14 13:08:49
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If you talk about pure business/engineering apps, then WM is better because of availability of software and the track record of implementation of these apps. And it has NOTHING to do with the fact that WM uses TS. If WM did not use TS, it would still be chosen because the availability of these specialised software. Look at BB and you know what I mean. They dont have TS but it is the phone OS of choice for enterprise communicator/email.

So to put it simply. It is the software/apps that determine the business adoption and not because a phone has TS. S60 is the choice platform for multimedia (mass consumer smartphone) because this is what it does best. Look at the japanese adoption of Symbian in their phones. How many of these are TS. Virtually none. TS is NOT essential for multimedia/consumer smartphone.

Very early on Symbian TS (i.e. UIQ) was dominant with adoption by SE and Motorola. But UIQ3 seems to be dying a slow death. Pure TS WM is going out of fashion as most WM now comes with some sort of keypad.



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Posted: 2008-02-14 13:19:01
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