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Less noise but less details, in the edited pic you can’t see the particulars of the green trees, it’ s not better for me

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Posted: 2008-03-10 21:17:36
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Amras Posts: > 500

I agree. It's not better for me too. I prefer 100% grainy pics with lots of details.

That's why K850 will be perfect if it has the K770/K750's reprocessing method. Grainy, but lots of details.


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Posted: 2008-03-10 21:41:58
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

think the pictures telling the true

k850 is the clear winner

K850..1..

K800..1..

K850..2..

K800..2..

K850..3..

K800..3..


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Posted: 2008-03-10 22:05:44
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Amras Posts: > 500

Yes, K850 is surely better. The only thing I don't like from K850 pics is the sky. Seems too overbright in the 2nd and 3rd pic, and the blue of the sky is better in K800 1st pic.
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Posted: 2008-03-10 22:28:04
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Luci'sPower Posts: > 500

well k850 is much better than the k800 in almost all areas...the only thing k800 it's better sometimes are te color reproduction(red color)...in rest nothing...i can post more pictures k850 vs k800 if you guys wan't,but you will get the same effect as in those pictures.......k850 the winner!
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Posted: 2008-03-10 23:16:26
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DarKMaGiCiaN Posts: > 500

@sadeghi85
I gave the example because lots of people ( sp nokia people ) hate the K850 due to the noise ( they like the hard noise reduction in nokia phones )

me 2 I prefer original pic!!

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hehehe it look like the pic is taken by nokia phones ( hehehe I like the trees and water fall in nokia shots heheheh it looks like someone paint it ^_*)


@Amras
watting for editing the camera driver

@Luci'sPower
there is no doubt about that ^_^


"The only thing I don't like from K850 pics is the sky. Seems too overbright in the 2nd and 3rd pic,"

I think this is a simple problem that can be solved by camera driver ^_^
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Posted: 2008-03-11 06:47:20
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Radiux399 Posts: 246


On 2008-03-10 21:41:58, Amras wrote:
I agree. It's not better for me too. I prefer 100% grainy pics with lots of details.

That's why K850 will be perfect if it has the K770/K750's reprocessing method. Grainy, but lots of details.




Agreed. I picked up a K800 to compare with my T650. While its not bad, its amazing just how much detail the K800 loses in its processing that the T650 manages to keep. Not to mention the colors - they are far more accurate on the T650.

Really, the only advantage beyond the xenon flash that the K800 has is sharpness, but even that can be fixed in a second in photoshop.
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Posted: 2008-03-14 02:58:19
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Amras Posts: > 500


On 2008-03-14 02:58:19, Radiux399 wrote:

On 2008-03-10 21:41:58, Amras wrote:
I agree. It's not better for me too. I prefer 100% grainy pics with lots of details.

That's why K850 will be perfect if it has the K770/K750's reprocessing method. Grainy, but lots of details.




Agreed. I picked up a K800 to compare with my T650. While its not bad, its amazing just how much detail the K800 loses in its processing that the T650 manages to keep. Not to mention the colors - they are far more accurate on the T650.

Really, the only advantage beyond the xenon flash that the K800 has is sharpness, but even that can be fixed in a second in photoshop.


Sharpness? I don't think that the artifact that K800 produces can be fixed in some PS. I mean, it's much easier to interpolate some grainy images (to have the feel more like K800's pics) rather than the opposite (sharpen an interpolated image to have the feel of more grainy).

IMO K800 has worse interpolation than K850. K850 comes with better details, and thank God in larger resolution too. But still.. prefer the K770/T650/K750/K550/W610/W800/W810's kind of post-processing to K850/K800/K810/K790's.

About the colors, I do think the same. K770/T650 can produce better colors in outdoor shots like that (using Daylight WB). (If you seen worse K770/T650 pics on the internet, it's just because the users just haven't known yet how to find the right settings - the same thing also applies with K850. You have to find the most proper setting.)






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Posted: 2008-03-14 05:09:20
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Radiux399 Posts: 246


On 2008-03-14 05:09:20, Amras wrote:

On 2008-03-14 02:58:19, Radiux399 wrote:

On 2008-03-10 21:41:58, Amras wrote:
I agree. It's not better for me too. I prefer 100% grainy pics with lots of details.

That's why K850 will be perfect if it has the K770/K750's reprocessing method. Grainy, but lots of details.




Agreed. I picked up a K800 to compare with my T650. While its not bad, its amazing just how much detail the K800 loses in its processing that the T650 manages to keep. Not to mention the colors - they are far more accurate on the T650.

Really, the only advantage beyond the xenon flash that the K800 has is sharpness, but even that can be fixed in a second in photoshop.


Sharpness? I don't think that the artifact that K800 produces can be fixed in some PS. I mean, it's much easier to interpolate some grainy images (to have the feel more like K800's pics) rather than the opposite (sharpen an interpolated image to have the feel of more grainy).

IMO K800 has worse interpolation than K850. K850 comes with better details, and thank God in larger resolution too. But still.. prefer the K770/T650/K750/K550/W610/W800/W810's kind of post-processing to K850/K800/K810/K790's.

About the colors, I do think the same. K770/T650 can produce better colors in outdoor shots like that (using Daylight WB). (If you seen worse K770/T650 pics on the internet, it's just because the users just haven't known yet how to find the right settings - the same thing also applies with K850. You have to find the most proper setting.)




Sorry, I think you misunderstood. What I meant is that the K800 offers better sharpness by default than the T650/K770, however you can easily add some extra sharpness using photoshop to T650/K770 images which would make them just as sharp as K800 shots - only without the loss of detail.
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Posted: 2008-03-15 22:57:59
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sblant Posts: 34

I want two second exposion for night photo as K750 with modded camera driver
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Posted: 2008-03-16 14:38:30
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