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my dear methylated_spirit
It honours me that at least you didn´t say I´m still living in the woods - but don´t feel mislead by my current (!) position. I´m proud citizen of a very 'well-developed' country (not that I´d dare to say Poland is not - but I thought I read this between the lines). Got my first ID card 12 years ago but - for example - I am really f**** up with the americans starting this biometric data mess.
Living in a 'nanny state' might be an ideal - but all communistic states where such an ideal (indeed back to the cold war), where the state 'cared' for its citizens - and you know what happened within. And I´m lucky to know what I´m talking about - I´ve been ehind the wall a couple of times when it still existed - cute kind atmosphere of suppression, betrayal and fear.
But even a nanny doesn´t need to know all your belongings - as long as she knows which child to look after and where the bottle is.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:11:04
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Lol... you guyyyys!
Another interesting point is this credit card malarky. People forget that its really the responsibility of the card ISSUERS to protect your card, not you.
Think about it. Every receipt, every statment, every transaction results in a hard copy of your card numbers being made. Every petrol station guy, every shop assistant, every company you buy from have your numbers the minute you purchase something, yet SOME of us run around like protecting the 16 digit number on your card is the most important thing ever. Its not!
If someone is going to infiltrate your wallet and get your card details they will get it one way or another, its soooo easy. So stop walking around with a clenched ar*ehole all year round and relax, if its your turn, its your turn. Anyone like MEND that offers to ASSIST you in the recovery of valuable items has to be the way forward.
I like the new chip and pin system. Just look at it. At a pay point you now, in full view of the queue behind you, key in your personal PIN number to authorise your transaction. Anybody with better than zero eyesight can clearly see you do it and mug you moments later. Now thats a problem worth mentioning!
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:11:25
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I deal with credit card transactions every single day, and all ican say is its a good job im an honest man...not so much face to face customers, but over the phone, its totally unsecure. You have all the info you need to make a "customer not present" transaction, theres nothing to stop you using those details for yourself.
@fetzi: i was not saying anything, i was merely ststing i do not know the system in poland so i will not comment on it. You are a regular conspiracy theorist! Stop reading so much into everything, mate.
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[ This Message was edited by: methylated_spirit on 2004-11-24 16:19 ]
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:18:03
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@dave_uk
if you´d followed the discussion from the beginning you would have registered (!) that I´m not talking only about mobiles - it complicates when someone (like in this thread) starts to register his whole belongings or even major parts of it..
@frontman
we´re using the pin system since 18 years - now it´s getting interesting when guys at the gas station make first a copy of your card (do you always control which machine they´re pulling your card through) and then use the station' s surveillance tapes to look after your pin..
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:18:48
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Quote:then use the station' s surveillance tapes to look after your pin..
Thats a bloody good point.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:36:49
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So? What can you do about it? Nothing. Live with it. Nothing is perfect.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:51:27
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yep. Open your doors, strip, let anyone see, read, save everything - don´t worry, it´s registered, and the good will always win! Yeah, come on nanny, time for my 5 o´clock milk..
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Posted: 2004-11-24 17:59:35
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On 2004-11-24 17:59:35, fetzi wrote:
yep. Open your doors, strip, let anyone see, read, save everything - don´t worry, it´s registered, and the good will always win! Yeah, come on nanny, time for my 5 o´clock milk..
How strange...
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Posted: 2004-11-24 18:17:15
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Hmmm.....
I think your last post is probably the most revealing (no pun intended) but for the record I did read the thread from the beginning. It started off fairly innocently - you may well not be talking only about mobiles, but everybody else was, until this veered off-topic. It is currently careering towards garbage at this rate!
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Posted: 2004-11-24 18:30:08
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And its a damn shame.
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Posted: 2004-11-24 19:08:18
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