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The 6680/9500 can't mach the 'slightly outdated' p910? You must be joking.Either that or you are a SE fanatic.I love Motorolas (after using Samsungs and a P800 I am still back to my very old blokia which I misuse on a daily basis) SE are falling back and they will post a bad 2-nd quarter.Go thru my dec. postings and you will see I was pretty accurate with my prediction of the bad first quarter.The buggy k750i does't help their cause neither ! O2 stopped selling it altogether.
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Posted: 2005-06-16 13:29:13
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Quote:This is a thread started by a complete whiner. If you don't like the friggin phones then don't buy them. Why sit and wallow in your complaints. Do yourself and everyone a favor stop crying about SE. If you do not like it then change.
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Posted: 2005-06-16 13:29:41
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This biz is cyclic. What was hot today is cold tomorrow. How many Communicators did Nokia sell verses the Pxx series? SE is late, and slow in bringing new Pxx models to the market, however once they come, they too will be positive sellers. It is a fact of the Market. Second, Motorola has a following in the US mainly because US customers are quite ignorant when it comes to cell phones and GSM/3G technologies all together. Just read an article about how "text" messaging is really catching fire in the US. What a laugh. Europe and the rest of the world has been there and done that for YEARS.
Not to mention ringing tones. Hot thing now in the US?
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Posted: 2005-06-16 13:33:25
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On 2005-06-16 00:44:43, sapporobaby wrote:
Why cry about EDGE when 3G is faster?
EDGE is an additional service based on "old" GSM technology, and will have the same geographical availability as ordinary GSM. 3G is a completely new network which only will be available in areas with lots of people. So you can expect to find 3G-services only in cities, no 3G in the countryside. EDGE will be available everywhere. At least this is the policy of the leading norwegian network provider Telenor.
Then, of course it would be an advantage if SE phones had EDGE, to enable highspeed datatransmission all over.
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Posted: 2005-06-16 14:01:33
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On 2005-06-16 14:01:33, Jolitorax wrote:
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On 2005-06-16 00:44:43, sapporobaby wrote:
Why cry about EDGE when 3G is faster?
EDGE is an additional service based on "old" GSM technology, and will have the same geographical availability as ordinary GSM. 3G is a completely new network which only will be available in areas with lots of people. So you can expect to find 3G-services only in cities, no 3G in the countryside. EDGE will be available everywhere. At least this is the policy of the leading norwegian network provider Telenor.
Then, of course it would be an advantage if SE phones had EDGE, to enable highspeed datatransmission all over.
Oh I understand, but with this comes developing additional products which add cost. As 3G is going to be the defacto standard, SE decided to look to the future as opposed to dwell in the present. In Finland and Germany, you can find 3G almost everywhere. I just with Sonera would get the video calls working.
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Here in South Africa it looks like the Norwegian company is right.Edge is only supported by one company but is widely available whereas 3G is only ment/available for the high density areas (cities)
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Posted: 2005-06-16 15:34:06
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@mario2002: Have you used a Nokia 9500 Communicator? Or Carried it with u for daily use? I tried but couldn't stand it. The phone is a joke.
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Yes I have played with one for a few minutes but did not carry it around.It is about 10% or so bigger/heavier than the P910i which itself is not small.I guess that is the price to pay if you want/need all that extra features.Anyway my reply referred to the suggestion - no nokia has more features then the P910i.
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there is no need to flanme people
I am currently a sony ericsson user I like the phone sure the camera is good for camera phones but I have a 8 mp sony f828 which is one of the best prosumer cameras out there,
I am not complaining aout the phones just stating the obvious, if I wanted to buy a nokia I would but I chose S.E.
it's just this worship, we will jump off of a cliff with S.E. talk that drives me nuts, don't accept everything you get it isn't about Nokia or Sony or any other company it's about us the consumers, we have a right to point out what's good and what's bad and what we want as we will be buying and using the phones,
for example one small detail, the video goes from fullscreen back to small everytime a new video starts, this has nothign to do with hardware it's software they can easily set that up why not listen to the 1000's of people who want that (maybe it will come in a future update) this is an extra an enhancment of the phone something the stupid designers and testers didn't think about,
but a new phone that keeps freezing and restarting every hour, is it too much to ask that at least the phone works ?
and you keep talking about the price I would gladly pay 200$ hell even 300$ more for a symbian / non crashing k750, in my eyes (even though the build could be better) it would be the perfect phone I could use for 2+ years.
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Posted: 2005-06-16 17:21:08
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On 2005-06-16 14:04:08, sapporobaby wrote:
Oh I understand, but with this comes developing additional products which add cost. As 3G is going to be the defacto standard, SE decided to look to the future as opposed to dwell in the present. In Finland and Germany, you can find 3G almost everywhere. I just with Sonera would get the video calls working.
They have EDGE in the W600a, so they should/could put it in the S600 too. It seems they already have the technology to fit EDGE in a W600a "shell/casing" so why not just put it in a S600 anyway?
What a waste, SE should realize that EDGE is not only for the Americas...
@Guys,
Look at it this way, say there are two K750i, one with EDGE and the other without. Which one would you prefer? The one with EDGE and has higher upload/download speeds or would you want the normal one with only GPRS speeds?
3G is TOTALLY out of the picture since the K750i is a GSM phone. We are talking about GSM. If I'd want 3G, I'd get the excellent V800 for that. If you say that SE is looking to the future, that is 3G, then why not stop making regular GSM phones completely and just go 3G?
It seems SE is deliberately not putting EDGE in their GSM phones that are sold outside the Americas... What gives? To me, that is the
ONLY disappointing aspect of SE... I don't care about their naming conventions and what not... They could name their phone "Winnie the Pooh" for all I care, if its good, I'll buy it !
Take for example the S700. Look what they did, they put in EDGE and called it the S710a and sold it only in the Americas? Why? Couldn't they just create two versions, a GSM 900/1800/1900 version and a GSM 850/1899/1900 version,
BOTH with EDGE capability? I don't see this adding cost?
Well, one can always hope...
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