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k750i night pic with rn firmware
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Posted: 2005-11-08 10:34:23
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johnpete, I can't view your images on their actual full size.
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Posted: 2005-11-08 12:04:58
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just delete the ".thm" part of the url and hit enter
johnpete, yep that focus trick is neat. As soon as I heard the K750 had auto focus I wondered if you could half press to focus and hold, just like on a "real" camera. I wasn't disappointed
[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2005-11-08 11:29 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-08 12:26:46
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Thanks, max_wedge. I just did a view source (page code) and manually copy the href's . . . Weird, must be a browser problem. (I tried clicking the thumbnail and nothing's happening, as if they're not a link.)
There's this thing about the pictures taken by my W800i that's been bothering me for a long time now.
Do your pictures (from K750/W800) show as much gridline noise patterns as mine?
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Look closely at the baby's face and my mother's hand holding her. The vertical lines are much more apparent (right side of image). What worries me is that these grid noise shows up on dark/black objects even when I take pictures on bright places, which suggest that they couldn't really be the normal noise due to low light conditions.
And I'm trying to compare it also with pictures from K750 and W800 posted all over the internet and I don't see other pictures showing this grid noise pattern.
What's wrong with my phone?!
[ This Message was edited by: kristianm on 2005-11-08 11:55 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-08 12:51:10
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The links used to work, but today they don't seem to. I thought it was just my browser or something in my network connection, but apparently everyone seems to be experiencing it. I guess either esato or imageshack changed something in either of their systems.
Kristianm, try lowering the brightness right before taking the pictures. I also thought when I upgraded to R1N035 that instead of improving my pictures they got worse, but apparently something in the auto settings (gamma, aperture opening, or exposure, I'm not quite sure) lets the camera get too much brightness in (even before I upgraded, I just didn't notice it before), hence the lines in the final product. If you have time, manually tweak the settings. If you need to get an immediate shot, I find that lowering the brightness (nudge the joystick to the left) is a quickie solution. You'd have to try it a few times to familiarize yourself which is just the right contrast (between light & dark) in the display minimizes those nasty lines. Try it out in different light conditions and view each shot with the zoom function right after. A few minutes of this & eventually most of the time you'll be able to tell, just by looking at the display, without really testing anymore.
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[ This Message was edited by: johnpete on 2005-11-08 14:44 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-08 15:33:11
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click where it says new window, then it'll open the thumb nail in a new window. then look in the address bar and you'll see what I mean
The vertical bars are normal. it is just the limits of the camera. Ensuring abundant light does help so use night mode where nothing is moving in the shot, even in well lit rooms at night.
You can also under exp one or two steps which darkens the grid lines somewhat, or reduce noise with an imaging program (noiseware is good and it's free).
Also many of the pics you see here are resized to some degree. The noise problem on K750 disappears when resized even 10% smaller. It virtually eliminates the gridline noise.
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Posted: 2005-11-08 15:35:00
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Oh yeah...the ".th" (for "thumbnail" i guess) It didn't used to do that, did it? Before you just click on the pic & a new window pops up with an image maximized for your browser and text from imageshack telling you to click again to get the original image. Thanks for the tip on simply erasing the "th" as a workaround!
Max is right though, the lines are really always there (I guess since it's really just 2mp we're working with) just less obvious in some shots than others. Don't worry about your unit, Kristianm. Look closely at products from full digicams of 2mp, I think they're all like that. My photographer friends tell me prints from 2mp digicams can only be printed on 8R max, any larger would show obvious noise lines and pixelation. Our K750's/W800's can only do just as well, I guess.
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Posted: 2005-11-08 15:54:16
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#kristianm
johnpete is right, I to have those gridlines if I zoom in and concentrate on looking for them, theres nothing wrong with your specific phone/camera, its simply the limitations of the camera showing.
The pictures of that beautifull baby, are of the same quality as other K750 pictures when viewed full size and unedited.
You could run it through some noisefilter software like some people do.
This removes almost all gridlines. To futher enhance you could optimise levels in something like Photoshop.
Heres a quick version of your photo through such a noisefilter
http://img320.imageshack.us/m[....]age=dsc006056iofiltered6io.jpg[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-11-08 16:07 ]
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Posted: 2005-11-08 17:05:18
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Thanks johnpete, max_wedge, and numb.
I thought my phone camera was somehow defective hence those lines.
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Posted: 2005-11-09 02:50:32
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Our pleasure I'm sure
Enjoy your phone, be confident it is one of the best on the market!
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Posted: 2005-11-09 03:46:44
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