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apparantly when people slag off Islam or any other religion, it's freedom of speech.
I think that if the truth is the truth then it's fine.
But when it's to provicate its not.
There are more anti Islam threads on the net than Anti-anything in my opinion.
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Posted: 2006-05-26 19:59:41
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On 2006-05-26 19:35:51, axxxr wrote:
would did i exactly do wrong to you?...i don't see this attitude coming from anyone else?
You are a demagogue, plain and simple. You use this forum as your own private soapbox and you get upset when people challenge you on your views. You hide behind freedom of speech, but you care nothing for actual discussion or the truth. You are only interested in disseminating your own awful and maligned view of the world, not actual debate or objective reasoning.
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Patronising as usual....
Look what I have to work with.
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Pity because i thought you were better than that...don't know what evidence exactly your after??...but sounds like your after more than that.
I have asked you on several occassions to provide evidence to back up your views, you have singularly failed to do so. You present your views as fact, you spread conspiracy theories as if they were concrete, yet you will not or cannot provide substantiating proof of such claims.
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Your the one being paranoid.
I don't normally use infantile responses so you will have to help me out here; is this the part where I say "No you are!"?
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Well i don't dislike you or hate you....i can't force you to do either.
Good for you.
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Your the one tarnishing esato which this nonsense.
Another one ... okay " No you are!" (It's rather easy when you get going actually
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There would be no need for anyone to criticise you as they do or to scrutinise your posts so much if you would simply refrain from spreading such awful invectives and actually back up your posts with solid evidence.
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You and a few other who object to the usual things....can't please everyone now can we?
So I do or don't object to your news posts? Since you seem know my opinion on them I would appreciate you informing me of it.
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Grow up mate!
Now that really hurt!
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Hate soaked according to you....If my opinions come across to you that way..then you have a right to your opinions but don't tell me what to do and what i should and should'nt be posting.....
One would hope that you wouldn't have to be told ...
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who's seeking attention here?
Apparently you are. You were the one who publicly announced you were leaving Esato when some people said things you didn't like. You were the one upset over not being included in my interview thread.
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.....other peoples opinions are important to me,some like yourself can't fathom the fact that i have a lot of support here.
The only support you require are the sleeves of a straighjacket.
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Are you having a laugh?
At you? Always.
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I always pick up on what all members tell me and practice that advice as best i can...I took your advice last time i asked you,and considerably cut down on political/threads threads...but i don't supposed you've noticed that!...just another one of those excuses to have snipe at me would'nt you agree?....why don't you be honest and tell us whats really bothering you.
You don't seem to realie that a biased post full of invective and bile is still going to illicit a response fom people. Cutting down the number of them isn't going to make much difference to the content. You were the one asking me what you should do and I gave you my advice, you seem to have chosen to ignore that, which makes me wonder why you bothered asking in the first place.
Believe me, you provide more than enough reasons for me to criticise you than I ever could.
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:05:04
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what does it all matter anyway?
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter,
there is only one sure way for us to live in harmony and it isnt going to happen, so when even challenge others views and opinions?
people have been brought up to belive in things, i've been brought up to belive that all religion is a farce. and thats how i've lived my life, i dont go around preaching and telling you all that religion is made up and a farce as it would just create more and more mayhem. its a well known thing that religions are antagonistic of others.
Can't we all just live with the fact that not everyone likes eveyone? ig we did wouldn't the world be such a boring place if we all just got on?
fatreg
remember the only way to live in harmony is for mass genocide of the whole world...
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:05:51
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Oh my goodness I'm soooo going to get it in the neck when a mod claps eyes on this thread......
I'd hoped people could talk about this rationally without it turning into scotsboyuk Vs axxxr.
I apologise for starting this thread, think I wasn't in the right frame of mind at the time and perhaps phrased a few things incorrectly
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:11:07
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Just take an example: I would now post everything related to Palestinians but in a bad way, I'm not sure that people will just ignore the threads, sorry miss copperfield but the "don't like, don't read" can't really work for political/religious threads.
I'm for political/religious threads but not beeing labelled as a media child or a weak minded because I'm questioning the conspiracy theories, I cannot count how much time I had as reply to my questions the "you believe the US gov and everyhting on tv", that's the real problem with those threads.
Quote:apparantly when people slag off Islam or any other religion, it's freedom of speech.
Ok, when did that occur on esato. Again and again no one is slagging Islam here.
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:12:23
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On 2006-05-26 19:41:31, Luke-the-magic-man wrote:
What do you mean appauling?
I mean i think it's bad, awful, terrible, not good, negative, etc.
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He is what I would call a valued member of staff, he reports the news and gives his opinion,
Let him give his opinion and let him report the news, do we have to have paranoid bias along with it?
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i think thouse are to very important qualities in any thread. You should really think allot harder about what he does. Yeh he posts allot about politics, didums. At least he gives his option at the matter of hand rather then the posters, I have no idea why you " dislike: him so much, it doesnt seem to make much sense to me, but prehaps youd like to give a go at presenting a opinion at the matter of hand rather then that of everyone else.
It doesn't make much sense to you that I should dislike someone who posts complete nonsense that is not only full of errors and half truths, but is also actually rather vile at times?
As for my opinion, read through some of the threads and you will find my opinion.
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You say his options are biased - well duh! Its called mediation its like the matrix and its all around you, not even the bloody bbc reports a storey without it, every singe thing you read or see has been mediated so the audience will take a certain viewpoint on the article at hand. If you cant deal with it then post your own topic on the same subject but using a differnet view point?
Bias isn't actually mediation, mediation involves compromise, which implies a level of objectivity.
It is perfectly possible to discuss a subject without being overly biased. Even if one does wish to put one's personal opinion into a post then one should not present it as fact. One should also not misprepsesent the truth. Surely that's something a 'news editor' wouldn't do?
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:14:35
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It wouldn't have mattered how you phrased it, this is the consequence of any thread along these type's of lines. So i would not worry!
You have the right to post a thread like this but they cannot be treated with respect and maturity by some people, thats life though.
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:14:55
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check you out miss c.....
fatreg
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:16:02
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Well said Miss C
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:17:35
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First and foremost i do not agree with the personal nature this thread has taken on.
I do however believe that this thread highlights the very reason that prehaps less political & religous threads should be made. The point i was trying to make earlier is that these threads seem to divide esato and cause arguements like this and bring out the worst in people at times. e.g. the racist comments people have referred to (although i must admit i have not seen these).
I would be happier if everyone just got on
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Posted: 2006-05-26 20:20:34
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