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Well.. I took this picture with my k750.
http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=7054

See for yourself, and then compare with the p1. But, obviously the p1 camera is very, very bad. Not just the tint, it seems the pictures are grainy, partially out of focus - and something is done to the pictures that shifts the palette into the bit with all the runny grey smudge on. At least in relatively low- light conditions.. Also, no controls for shutter speed or lens opening. Which, I assume is what's so brilliantly taken care of by the software.

But... let's see if it's improved with the next firmware. I'm not going to expect anyone on SE to suddenly start implementing semi- custom controls for the camera- app, similar to what they have on their jp- phones, though.

(Unless everyone goes and writes in the wiki, perhaps )
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Posted: 2007-09-11 22:14:57
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The green tint is only visible in certain situations and let's face it, it took someone commenting in this forum to make us go and look for the green tint anyway! I like the camera, it's fine. My next phone in 12 months will presumably have an even better one, that's technology. As for my accepting faults, not on your life. I sent a P1i back because it creaked and I refused to have the N95 due to build quality 'issues'.
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Posted: 2007-09-12 00:33:11
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@Nispsen compare what?

you need to have the same picture to go an accurate comparison...

here are some randoms i did with the n93i and p1i both shoot in automode..

http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006227445630230958

i'll admit the p1i camera isn't the great but I don't really have any issues with it... of course one always wants better i guess

[QUOTE=shaolinmonk]Hey guys,

Still got that n93i lying around so I thought I'd do a picture quality comparison.

Everything shot in auto +/- macromode where needed.

This compares "stills" only too lazy to do video and we know the n93i vid recording is much better anyway.

Enjoy...

P1i pics


N93i pics
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[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-09-12 23:51 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-13 00:50:42
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Hello DragonEye,

Very awesome of you to contribute such a comparison. I'm at work right now so I haven't taken a detailed look yet, but so far it seems I'm likin the P1i stills better. Overall the color just seems more "correct" (or it could be my computer screen). BTW, what's up with the parking lot photo? The other camera(N95?) seemed to crap out on the white balance and made it all purple pink. You sure you didn't change the white balance from automatic to something else by accident? Anyways, the colors for the P1i seem more natural to me. I'll have to take a look at the actual quality and resolution when I get back home. But great work and thanks for sharing.


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Posted: 2007-09-13 02:28:50
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Anything, really. Take the vodka- bottle shot on your link, for instance. So, where's the focus? Is it somewhere between the Smirnoff- label and the Canadian Club whisky, maybe? But, it's still not worse further down in the picture. So I guess that means the picture has several points like this, and that there's some post- processing going on supposed to smooth things out. It doesn't appear to work well. And the result seems to be several fields of somewhat grainy picture almost in focus in several places. And the irritating thing is that you'll get this with almost flat surfaces too. Here is a picture in black and white where you can see it clearly. So where's the focus? It's on the back of the notepad in the top right of the picture. Here's another picture of the same, but this time with focus apparently on the point nearest the camera, on the tip of the plastic holder on the keyboard.

Then it's the colours. If you open the picture of the larva I took with the k750, you'll be able to see very clearly that the colours don't shift particularly much from the left to the right in the picture. Even though it's taken in overcast conditions with more light coming in from one of the sides. In other words, the amount of light on parts of the picture doesn't shift the colour- palette on the other parts of the picture out of range. And that way I won't get grainy brownish smudge, or a bright glare, on most of the picture as a rule.

So, can this be fixed? It definitively can be improved. But I don't think it's very likely that the software in the form that it's in, with the autofunctions and so on, can be used to take very good pictures. Or even passable ones. Because the lack of any aiming spots for the autozoom, as well as the strange post- processing, doesn't make that possible, it seems to me, anyway.
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Posted: 2007-09-13 12:53:40
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@liaoip

I tried a few times and it kept on producing the bluetint.. not sure why
had the same issues with the n73
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[ This Message was edited by: DragonEye on 2007-09-13 16:04 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-13 16:58:46
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just received my p1i and i'm extremely happy with it - except for this green tint on the camera.

The quality of the camera overall is about what i had expected (its not a cybershot phone) but this green tint is rubbish. Hopefully it can be fixed in a future software update. The fact that the proto p1i's didn't display this defect leave me hopeful that it is software related as i think its unlikely they use different camera modules(?)
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Posted: 2007-09-13 17:09:36
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I am getting more and more frustrated because of the green tint. Check out that green tint on a wooden surface. It is horrible.

And it is not just the green tint. I think there is a blue tint on the other side as well. There is a sample on a white sheet.

Or maybe mine is worse than yours.

SE when are you going to solve this problem?

P1 in Normal position

P1 upside down

From Blue > Red > Green

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Posted: 2007-10-05 22:50:59
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Blimey, that does look bad! Mine is generally just the green tint on the rhs and I do find it annoying. Apart from that, the camera is brilliant. When will we have the first proper firmware update?
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Posted: 2007-10-06 00:33:57
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Thought people may be interested. I looked in P1i and W960 Camera firmware.

Code:
0000a4b2h: 43 6F 6D 70 61 6E 79 20 3A 20 4D 74 65 6B 56 69 ; Company : MtekVi
0000a4c2h: 73 69 6F 6E 0A 00 53 6B 65 6C 65 74 6F 6E 3A 20 ; sion..Skeleton:
0000a4d2h: 76 25 64 2E 25 64 0A 00 50 6F 72 74 69 6E 67 20 ; v%d.%d..Porting
0000a4e2h: 3A 20 76 25 64 2E 25 64 0A 00 44 61 74 65 20 20 ; : v%d.%d..Date
0000a4f2h: 20 20 3A 20 25 73 28 25 73 29 0A 00 4D 61 79 20 ; : %s(%s)..May
0000a502h: 32 31 20 32 30 30 37 00 32 32 3A 33 31 3A 31 ; 21 2007.22:31:1


C for yourself

Not really happy about this. No wonder its such poor quality for 3mp CMOS!

If Hopefully manufacturers will wake up and give handsets the quality parts they deserve, instead of crap sensors with even crapper software upscaling...

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Posted: 2007-10-06 00:48:17
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