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Ok, just one question.
If the v6.1 apps would run on v7.0 with little or no modification, then
why is the sdk free for one and not for the other?
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:17:00
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gadgetboytom Posts: > 500
the sdk is free for both 7.0 and 6.1
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:22:00
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Oh, ok. But wasn't there some fuss about $1000-1500 sdk for p800?
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:26:00
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I believe the Codewarrior tools is what costs. Somebody correct me if I am wrong here. The SDK itself is free, I've downloaded it myself, along with the emulator.
-Knut
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:34:00
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And in order to create or change a v6.1 app to fit to v7.0, you need the codewarrior, am I right?
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:40:00
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gadgetboytom Posts: > 500
? the sdk is downloadble i have it it cost me nothing
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:48:00
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BTW there is final sdk on eric. site released today.
There are also free c++ tools for linux (u can make symbian apps, but there is no emulator so u compile and run on your p800)
If you want to emulate runing of your native symbian 7 app.
then u need codewarrior from metrowerks.
With java u can emulate and develop already withSDK avail. for free already
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Posted: 2002-12-06 18:55:00
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Yes, I know, I have too much free time on my hands. But, I can't help it, I just love to debate about something with know-it-all clueless kids.
Quote:You are a desperate Nokia fanboy
Ah, do I miss being a child... If I were one, I'd probably would reply to you: And you are a desperate SonyEricsson fangirl... Too bad I'm a grownup...
Quote:You cannot even grasp how the mobile phones you comment on work. If you need to justify yourself purchasing the 7650 instead of the P800, go to a Nokia forum.
I will never buy a 7650 because I don't need a smartphone like that. I need a phone/PDA combo like the P800, so I'll probably buy that. Not everything is a Nokia vs. SE battle, you know. If exactly the same P800 was produced by Nokia instead of SE, I would still buy it. You probably wouldn't, that's what is so sad.
Quote:Series60 is a UI, nothing more. UI stands for User Interface. IT IS NOT A OPERATING SYSTEM.
Series 60 is not just an UI, it also adds support for other things like MMS, camera etc. Symiban 6.1 Series 60 is a PLATFORM which will be more popular and widespread than Symbian 7.0 UIQ. Are you saying otherwise?
Quote:There are no Series60 apps, they are Symbian apps using the Series60 interface. If Nokia put Series60 on top of Linux, none of the apps would work, cause they were written for Symbian. All apps written to use the Series60 interface would work on a Symbian 7 codebase with little or no conversion needed.
Oh, really? How many Symbian apps have you written? Can you tell me what an active object is? Active scheduler? Descriptors? A store? A MBM? Uikon? No? Well, I have been developing for Symbian for quite some time now, so I think that I know a little more about Symbian programming than you do.
Quote:Just showing how little you understand, you say Symbian7 is not much better than 6.1.
Aaaargh, let me repeat myself, Symbian 7.0 IS more advanced than Symbian 6.1. BUT, that has NOTHING TO DO with the amount of software available for it and its quality.
Quote:Oh go use a bluetooth headset with your 7650. What's that, you cant? Oh yeah thats right, the 6.1 release has a problem with that, thank god I'm getting a phone based on Symbian 7.
Well, Nokia 3650 will support a bluetooth headset and it is using Symbian 6.1 and Series 60. How can that be? It must be some Nokia's mistake. After all, Knut G., a well known Symbian expert, claims that such a thing in not possible. I'm so confused...
[ This Message was edited by: faca on 2002-12-06 18:41 ]
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Posted: 2002-12-06 19:39:00
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Sigh.
Faca:
You are a desperate Nokia fanboy, deal with it. Pretending you are a grownup(mentally speaking) doesnt work, since people only have to read you posts on this forum to see otherwise.
Series60 is not just a UI? This really proves that you know jack shit. It is NOT a platform, the platform is the Symbian operating system. It adds support for MMS? Are you completely daft? Nokia has not been able to write a decent MMS implementation yet, and it certainly has not done so with Series60. All the MMS workings lies in the Symbian operating system, no where else. The only thing Series60 does, is make it available to the end user in its own UI.
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Oh, really? How many Symbian apps have you written? Can you tell me what an active object is? Active scheduler? Descriptors? A store? A MBM? Uikon? No? Well, I have been developing for Symbian for quite some time now, so I think that I know a little more about Symbian programming than you do.
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You have been reading up on Developer papers, haven't you, you naughty boy? If I bothered to read up on it, I could know what those things are. I do not however, but honestly, I doubt you do as well. Is this your pathetic reply to my statement about the Series60 being a GUI? Let us get facts out:
Are you stating that a program written for Series60 on the Symbian6.1 operating system will work if they put Series60 on Linux? Yes or no pls.
I honestly doubt you have written a competent Symbian app in all your life. I welcome you to prove me wrong, but the FUD you spread here only proves you are able to read whitepapers, nothing more.
Being such a expert on Symbian programming, explain to me then, how the porting of a program from 7650 to P800 is very hard. Please. You clearly do not have a clue what you are talking about. You have contradicted yourself every second post in this thread, and now you are supposed to be an experienced Symbian programmer? Please. I have some programming knowledge you know, and changing the user input from keyboard to mouse/touchscreen aint that hard.
-Knut
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Posted: 2002-12-06 20:19:00
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On 2002-12-06 20:19, Knut.G. wrote:
Being such a expert on Symbian programming, explain to me then, how the porting of a program from 7650 to P800 is very hard. Please.
-Knut
Please, please, please explain to me how this could so easily be done. No, seriously I really like to know.
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On 2002-12-06 14:05, gadgetboytom wrote:
the funny thing is that nokia are using v7 on the 9210 replacment
and moto on paragon II and siemens and loads more people
not to mention series 60 apps should work with little or no conversion on v7 products
the p800 like the 7650 are pioneer phones
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[ This Message was edited by: gadgetboytom on 2002-12-06 13:06 ]
Same question here. Please do tell me where you get your information from.
Btw, aren't you the same guy who started the 7650i rumours(among others) who's all been proven wrong?
Thanks.
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Posted: 2002-12-06 21:35:00
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