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main thing that put me off is the price though i do chuckle at some of the comments that people make they mention all the things it cant do but never say how often they actually use those feature on there current handset
mms is a classic example people say they need it but how often do people us it when its far easier to email the pics from the phone and cheaper.

i m not saying its the greatest phone made as i dont think its anywhere close but its no where near as bad as people are making out.
most people dont use half the features on there current phone then have a go at a phone for not having them.

its still far to expensive as others have said free on the £45 a month tariff and say £50 for the cheaper ones.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 17:28:14
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another thing i dont like full touch because when im out on the drink on a night out it impossible to texts after a couple ov beers and doubles it hard enough on a normal n95 lol, half the people in newcastle are pissed on the wkd lol
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Posted: 2007-12-06 17:40:09
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The picture messaging would annoy me personally. Sending pictures by email is fine, but it's not the same as MMS - it's not instant, and it's not generally phone-to-phone, unless all your friends happen to check their email attachments on their handsets the whole time, which mine certainly don't.

Even if you're not a prolific snapper yourself, it's still handy to receive them - I have a few friends that send me spontaneous pics that they'd never think to email, even if they used email on their phones.

As for the other features the Iphone lacks - yup, sorry, but I do use them as well. I forward SMS's (I copy and paste from them as well, something else you can't do on an iphone). I use 3G, and even HSDPA on my current handset. I swap files and pictures by bluetooth sometimes (cheaper than email even). None of this is rocket science, they're features most of us have been taking for granted for years.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-12-06 16:51 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 17:42:48
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i think your probably the execption to the rule then, i wager most people dont use 3g very often as it cost so much to use
i us to use bluetooth but i can plug a cable or drop my phone in a dock and do it quicker than bluetooth can.
i m not saying all the missing features arent required just the majority of mobile phone users wont miss them in the slightest how many people send mms on a regular basis very few i ll bet i ve sent about 20 since it came out and most of those when free mms are about and i ve received about the same amount back.Try to find out the figures for mms use in the uk no company seems to want to say what the usage is text msgs they ll shout from the roof tops how many have been sent.
most people in reality text take pics listen to music and make calls probably in that order.
i think people should buy what suits there needs and pockets , if the iphone was the same price as any of the current se or nokia handsets (ie free ) on a £25 plus a month price plan it would have sold like hot cakes and only the very chosey would be the ones who werent buying them
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Posted: 2007-12-06 18:44:42
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I also don't use MMS. I used them once or twice last year when I got my w900, but I received more than I sent (and that was only about 6 or 7). They would annoy me, as they took so long to download (Vodafone's signal is awful where I live).

Just a reason why I love my iPhone so much:

The other night, I walked home from work. I was listening to music on the (iPhone's) iPod, when an email came in. I switched from iPod to email, read my mail, then went back to the iPod. A minute later, I came a cross a restaurant that - lit up - looked great at night, so I stopped and took a photo, whilst still listening to the iPod. The fact that all this was so effortless and took a second or two to carry out more than made the cost of buying an iPhone for me. There was no slowdown whatsoever in operating the phone. I could never have done that on my w800, w900, k800, w580 or N95. At least, not as quickly, smoothly or effortlessly.

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By the way, my iPhone is not loose.
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Using 'to' when you should be using 'too'? YOU FAIL AT ENGLISH.

[ This Message was edited by: shanespencer on 2007-12-06 18:19 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-06 19:17:44
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^^
I could do that just as well on my K810. And the picture would be 10x as good, too!
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Posted: 2007-12-06 19:42:31
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"And here come the fanboys!"

Strange. I couldn't do it on my k800. Well, I could probably manage it if I tried hard enough, but it wouldn't have been anywhere as pleasurable an experience as it is on the iPhone.

As for the photos, I agree the photos from a k810/k800 would be better, but I wouldn't say it was 10x better, not without scientific evidence to back that up.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:15:34
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Well, apprently, there was something wrong with your K800.


I was speaking figuratively. Maybe 3x.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:19:02
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I'm not a prolific MMS user, and I don't doubt that few are - but being able to send or receive the odd picture instantly is still a feature I do use, and would certainly miss - i'd wager most would. It's taken for granted with any mobile, let alone a high-end one, and whichever way you cut it there's no good reason why a pay as you go customer can send a drunken snap to his mate, but his mate's swanky expensive Iphone can't receive it.

Face it, if the iphone supported MMS and the rest didn't, it'd be hyped up to the gills as the greatest thing since the telephone!

as for the walk home, well, it pretty much describes my own experience of smartphones since my first P800 four years ago - hard to share the excitement really!
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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:27:09
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i m not fully disagreeing with you i just think if you diod nt have it you d hardly miss it and its not really something to critise a phone for.
i do agree when you talk about been about to do all that stuff with a smart phone years ago and that the iphone is nt some revolutionary thing once you strip away all the marketing(fantastic marketing) it a phone with limitations.

but i still think if the price was right it would be a market leader as it covers what the majority of people want from a phone and what they use there phone for the most.

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Posted: 2007-12-06 20:41:32
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