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mario2004 Posts: > 500

Yes, I absolutely agree - SE has no choice, but to use inferior/cheap components in order to minimize profit lose. The 4-th quarter is much worse than the 4-th quarter last year. (Which was a very good one) The profit shrinking continues compared to the 3-th quarter. Which means they are still going downhill. I can't wait to see the excuses they will come up with. That much for challenging Samsung and Motorola for market share. Actually they must watch their backs because LG is not far behind anymore. They should have never let the ‘BOSS’ go. SE fans must get used to cheap components for quite some time to come
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Posted: 2007-12-29 18:27:27
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

looooooooooooooool


i have only one answer to this thread.............

compare this k850 pictures..(or someone else k850 pictures on Flickr.com of course)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21179102@N07/

against this G800 pictures
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/g800/
nearly everyone of this g800 pics looks blurry....no good at all.

the indoor looks HORRIBLE..even some outdoor
so much for big sensor in G800...eeehhhh
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-12-29 17:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-29 18:33:10
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mario2004 Posts: > 500

Well, exactly - this is your problem. You have only one answer which you keep posting over and over. On the other side are 'many' answers posted by different users. Time to grow up And have you ever asked yourself why only the pictures in flickr look better on the K850i (actually this is debatable but let me give you the benefit of the doubt) Can it be that the shrinking routine favors one handset over the other? Anyway, I personally think both devices takes nice pics. Of course the N95 tops them all - for now
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Posted: 2007-12-30 13:00:27
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dupfold Posts: 87

Which out of the two has the fastest shutter speed please?

Really don't know which to get now as read so many contrasting reviews. My last two phones have been the K series and I've been more than happy with both. I was all set to purchase the 850i when I came across the G800 with its optical zoom, something that I have wanted in a camera phone for ages.

Overall though I would have to go with which ever provides the best pictures indoors and out, but trying to find that out with all the contrasting views is becoming a bit of a nightmare. Help!



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Posted: 2008-01-03 18:18:46
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JaffaTB Posts: 85

not tried the g800 but i had a g600 for about a week, the camera might be good but the UI is total rubbish (you couldnt add you own txt tones on g600!) it was so cluttered and hard to do anything
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Posted: 2008-01-03 22:31:55
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numb Posts: > 500

I dont care what any SE fanboy says here - I have allways been a SE fanboy myself - but this 850 camera is ludecrislou poor


take a look at some of these samples taken in sunny daylight or well lit indoor








and some random shots from my K750 for comparison:








NO postprocessing has been done to any of the photos by me - they are straight out of the phones and uploaded in original - resized by the Esato web resizer during upload only

Naturally I have made some shots from the K850 that are better than these samples - but most are not that much better, and in general all shots require heavy postprocessing just to look reasonably ok. And I do know how to use the manual settings, I have been an eager photographer for years with proper cameras as well as mobile cams.

Simple fact is that it makes almost no difference what you do with the settings - its still a complete random hit and miss how the result turns out in the K850

This is propably one of the best I have been able to take with the K850 - and even this have wrong color rendition and doesnt come close to some of the best shots Ive taken with the K750



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Posted: 2008-01-03 23:20:14
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ripnrage Posts: 15


On 2008-01-03 18:18:46, dupfold wrote:
Which out of the two has the fastest shutter speed please?



That would be intresting to know! Anyone tested this?
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Posted: 2008-01-04 11:33:10
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

numb...eeeeeeeeehhhhhhh

this indoor pics from your k850 looks like a joke

here what i get with my k850..indoor, no flash of course...taken in low light

document, -0.7...stabilzer off


document, -0.7...stabilzer on


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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-04 12:14 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-04 13:13:58
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carkitter Posts: > 500

@numb
I have to agree with Plankgatan, your shots show significant lack of care on your part not

For instance:
Pic 1 & 3 have very strong Blue hues - a characteristic of setting the exposure to fluorescent when you actually have significant natural light in the shot. I know, I've done it myself by accident.

Pic 2, you moved the camera and made the image blurry.

Pic 4 looks okay but you're a little too close to the subject for the focus to work well. Remember, it's not a DSLR! Use of the 'rule of thirds' for composition would help that shot.

Pic 7 (candles) looks out of focus. Too close again? Macro-mode?
Edit: Infact I think you left the fluorescent setting on again for this shot.

I do think the K850i is disappointing in some situations and struggles alongside the Optical zoom, massive file size G800, but with care applied it can produce great photos as Plankgatan has demonstrated.

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Posted: 2008-01-05 00:27:58
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rockerZ Posts: 423


On 2008-01-04 13:13:58, plankgatan wrote:
numb...eeeeeeeeehhhhhhh

this indoor pics from your k850 looks like a joke

here what i get with my k850..indoor, no flash of course...taken in low light

document, -0.7...stabilzer off


document, -0.7...stabilzer on


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(t610, t630, k700, k750, k800, k810)


[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-04 12:14 ]


AND HERE COMES THE BIGGEST PRAISER OF K850 EVER KNOWN !
KEEP IT UP , AND I HOPE YOU STAY AS THE BIGGEST PRAISER KNOWN YET.



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Posted: 2008-01-05 00:51:03
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