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Dups! Posts: > 500

@adsada

If there is a tentative agreement between the two parties then yes there could be a prototype around.

Let's see, the Ericsson T68i laters became the Sony Ericsson T68i. Then there is the T610i which was going to be an Ericsson phone as but after the agreement between the two parents it became a Sony Ericsson.

I can make examples from Siemens and later BenQSiemens also.
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Posted: 2011-10-13 17:02:57
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goldenface Posts: > 500

@adsada

Like I said - it was just a thought.

It was written into the original JV agreement that both companies should still able to produce their own mobiles should they wish to do so. Mobile development is an ongoing process, there are endless prototypes being produced which never make it to market.

I would be very surprised if Sony hadn't considered the prospect of a fall out with Ericsson only to find itself not prepared for such an eventuality.

For the sake of development, both companies must have their own mobile R&D departments.

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Posted: 2011-10-13 17:11:30
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adsada Posts: > 500


On 2011-10-13 17:02:57, Dups! wrote:
@adsada

If there is a tentative agreement between the two parties then yes there could be a prototype around.

Let's see, the Ericsson T68i laters became the Sony Ericsson T68i. Then there is the T610i which was going to be an Ericsson phone as but after the agreement between the two parents it became a Sony Ericsson.

I can make examples from Siemens and later BenQSiemens also.



That's different, in those cases they just rebranded the phone because it was around the time of joining the joint venture. Just now it is implied that Sony has already given up on SE and is producing its own phones for itself for when (if) they do buy Ericsson out. Now if this were to be true as I've said it would be crazy to do so because as much as they want it they cannot be certain Ericsson will allow it, and if talks do fail and they continue the JV then they have just wasted money developing a phone which will not go to market. I just don't think this is a reasonable thought, but we will see.
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Posted: 2011-10-13 17:20:30
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Hsiao Posts: 4

http://weibo.com/sebbs

Ray 2. 6-7mm
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Posted: 2011-10-13 17:57:41
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motvikt Posts: > 500

Ray is probably their new design language.
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Posted: 2011-10-13 18:06:41
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Dups! Posts: > 500


On 2011-10-13 17:20:30, adsada wrote:

On 2011-10-13 17:02:57, Dups! wrote:
@adsada

If there is a tentative agreement between the two parties then yes there could be a prototype around.

Let's see, the Ericsson T68i laters became the Sony Ericsson T68i. Then there is the T610i which was going to be an Ericsson phone as but after the agreement between the two parents it became a Sony Ericsson.

I can make examples from Siemens and later BenQSiemens also.



That's different, in those cases they just rebranded the phone because it was around the time of joining the joint venture. Just now it is implied that Sony has already given up on SE and is producing its own phones for itself for when (if) they do buy Ericsson out. Now if this were to be true as I've said it would be crazy to do so because as much as they want it they cannot be certain Ericsson will allow it, and if talks do fail and they continue the JV then they have just wasted money developing a phone which will not go to market. I just don't think this is a reasonable thought, but we will see.



No, what I am saying is that if Ericsson has agreed to sell its stake to Sony, certainly the rumours suggest that that is the case and the sticking point is the price or value of the stake, then Sony can go ahead and make their prototype(s) in anticipation of the deal being signed. It is not to suggest that they have no faith in SE but to prepare for continuity.

I guess time will tell, so let's see what happens.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2011-10-13 17:10 ]

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Posted: 2011-10-13 18:08:26
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Dups! Posts: > 500


On 2011-10-13 17:57:41, Hsiao wrote:
http://weibo.com/sebbs

Ray 2. 6-7mm


Now they are pushing it! 6-7mm is breakage point and I don't want a phone that thin.

But then, the W880i was very thin and well built, hopefully this is built similarly to the W88i by using metal and plastic accents.


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Posted: 2011-10-13 18:16:56
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goldenface Posts: > 500

That is not just thin, it's emaciated. If the current rumours are to be believed 2012 is shaping up to be quite interesting already.

6-7mm sounds impossibly thin - look at how thin a 3.5mm jack is.
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Posted: 2011-10-13 18:46:35
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jack00 Posts: > 500


On 2011-10-13 01:59:05, FMW300i wrote:
I know spy pics never do justice to the actual phone, but whatever that is, it looks very un-SE. Too block-ish and not following design.



T610 T650 K600 ...
i really really hope that they are finally introducing some swedish design again
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Posted: 2011-10-13 19:33:55
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FMW300 Posts: 279

Though it looks nothing like design, I'm all for new/different styling, as I think the 2 designs recycled over and over for 2011 was starting to get a little boring: Arc/Neo/Pro/Play & Ray/Mini/Mini Pro/Live/Mix/Txt. [Active looks like Samsung or LG designed it.]
Anyway, I'm sure this 'W23' will look great in official pics....
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Posted: 2011-10-14 02:20:29
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