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On 2011-10-15 14:58:14, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-10-15 04:12:10, razec wrote:
While the news of the buyout really bothers me as a fan/user, i think we should discuss the topic on its proper thread, we're getting Off-topic already if you guys won't mind me telling
I agree!
I find it interesting that this Nozomi is capable of hiding her face so well, shouldn't we have a leak by now? Since I have had a change of mind about SE and Sony Mobile, I am looking at it as a potential buy. I hope SE goes for a 4.5'' screen with this thing.
Where is rog when you need him?
Where is Eldar when you need him
Last year he had a preview of arc in November or something
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Posted: 2011-10-15 15:12:13
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Don't know if SE can really stop leaks, but could the fact that they now have the arc s be the reason of no leak? They want to sell this during Q4 of this year as a superfast and powerful phone, if a rumour of a dual core SE phone is coming soon then it could potentially put people off buying the arc s. So maybe they are actually trying to prevent leaks and keep a tight wrap on things. Though lets all remember the play and how pathetically leaked that was
doubt SE could be bothered trying to stop leaks
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Posted: 2011-10-15 18:36:12
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Arc S is selling at ~£350. There is no way that they mean Arc S to be the allstar for a great period of time (if any). It is merely a way to offload some old component stock and extend the shelf life of Arc as it hadn't sold as many units as they'd thought it might.
What we should be considering is whether releasing a superphone this quarter will kill or be kiled by any potential WMC announcement/release. To get any life out of something like that they'd have to have released last week and again at the end of 2012Q1 so as to get a full 6 months as the flagship, or if they're trying to pass off Play and Arc as joint flagship models/something special maybe they could replace one of them this quarter and the other next quarter.
Personally I don't see anything till (probably late) Q1 next year. I hope I'm wrong and they release 10 superphones each with the same (ground-breaking) specs but in 10 fantastic previously unimagined designs, all at 1/10th the price of the prospective Galaxy Prime and all before my birthday next month, but it's not going to happen.
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Posted: 2011-10-16 04:18:18
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On 2011-10-16 04:18:18, Ricky D wrote:
... To get any life out of something like that they'd have to have released last week and again at the end of 2012Q1 so as to get a full 6 months as the flagship, ...
I don't get this part. I am getting a strange message of releasing a one phone twice.
Anyway, I have said it before that SE has a very wrong strategy. Let's see what happens next year. I believe they should have a flagship in Q1 and a decently refreshed second flagship in Q4. You could say they tried it with the arcS but didn't quite pull it off cause there just isn't anything to write home about when it comes to the arcS.
The problem comes in when you factor in the competition, SE's flagship simply falls short in almost every department.
I hope Bert was having a moment when he said that they will not push untested hardware because they are not guaranteed to sell. That statement will come back to bite him if that is how they are going to carry on.
(The) Nozomi is supposedly running a 1.5Ghz, dual-core processor, depending on what the competition will offer in Q4 [and I suspect we will see quad-core processors in phones] they'd have to upgrade (the) Nozomi 2 with a quad-core processor to make any inroads and make a bit of profit.
Yes, I agree that quad-core in phones is overkill but people are buying highly specced phones in droves cause they want the feeling of a 'future-proof phone' and having something that is better than the next. SE are underestimating the mindset of today's consumer and that is not good.
I know they've been hit hard by their past actions but this mentality that Bert has is bad, bad, bad. It's funny that they took gambles in the past with the likes of the P800i, W800i and the K800i and the results of those gambles paid off handsomely.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2011-10-16 09:52 ]
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Posted: 2011-10-16 10:45:56
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On 2011-10-16 10:45:56, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-10-16 04:18:18, Ricky D wrote:
... To get any life out of something like that they'd have to have released last week and again at the end of 2012Q1 so as to get a full 6 months as the flagship, ...
I don't get this part. I am getting a strange message of releasing a one phone twice.
I guess what I meant was if they're going to release a hard hitter now and another one in Q1, they should have released the first two weeks ago and the second at the end of Q1. This way the first would get a good run in before being killed off by the second.
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Posted: 2011-10-16 12:13:25
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they'd have to upgrade (the) Nozomi 2 with a quad-core processor to make any inroads and make a bit of profit.
or they could keep it dual-core and use the 28nm snapdragon S4 for a Q4 refresh. other manufacturers however, will probably have phones with this chipset around the first half of 2012.
but yeah, they gotta switch up their business strategy in the cell phone industry. what they're doing now won't be successful long term. you just can't compete at the high-end with hardware that's a generation behind. but that's what the sony takeover of SE is for right?
[ This Message was edited by: wario on 2011-10-16 11:36 ]
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Posted: 2011-10-16 12:36:03
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On 2011-10-16 12:13:25, Ricky D wrote:
On 2011-10-16 10:45:56, Dups! wrote:
On 2011-10-16 04:18:18, Ricky D wrote:
... To get any life out of something like that they'd have to have released last week and again at the end of 2012Q1 so as to get a full 6 months as the flagship, ...
I don't get this part. I am getting a strange message of releasing a one phone twice.
I guess what I meant was if they're going to release a hard hitter now and another one in Q1, they should have released the first two weeks ago and the second at the end of Q1. This way the first would get a good run in before being killed off by the second.
Aah, okay. That makes sense now.
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Posted: 2011-10-16 14:27:36
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iPhone 4S Camera Made by Sony
http://www.ifixit.com/blog/bl[....]iphone-4s-camera-made-by-sony/
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Posted: 2011-10-16 17:48:32
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Unknown device from SE witn name PY7A3880133 in FCC.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oet[....]d=337334&fcc_id=%27PY7A3880133
The version of firmware 4.0.1.A.0.145, it seems no more interesting in specs
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Posted: 2011-10-16 21:01:38
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Judging from the samples, Apple did a better job than SE on the software part.
edit. Just saw a comparison on
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]t-iphone-4s-versus-xperia-arc/
Closer than I thought! Actually hard to pick a winner
[ This Message was edited by: motvikt on 2011-10-16 21:34 ]
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Posted: 2011-10-16 21:18:33
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