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Seriously I understand if HTC gets a phone with krait out on the market faster than SE, but ASUS too? WTF?
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Posted: 2011-11-21 20:29:51
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On 2011-11-21 11:29:14, smclion102 wrote:
On 2011-11-21 02:10:00, Bonovox wrote:
Is this Nozomi still coming out?? Will it be rje last SE device?? Or will it be under Sony name??
50 MORE DAYS FOR CES 
we will get to know most of the stuff that day
Fingers Crossed
Ok cool
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Posted: 2011-11-21 22:43:08
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On 2011-11-20 07:10:49, HxH wrote:
Every Qualcomm Snapdragon chip is based on Cortex A8 Architecture even Krait 28nm, that's why I start do not like them. Old technology Sell Expensive.
While those competitor using Cortex A9 architecture : ST-Ericsson NovaThor / Nvidia Tegra / Samsung Exynos / TI OMAP 4. Look into these benchmark tests , where Qualcomm had been left in dust. And will be even worse in next year because Samsung might goes for Cortex A7 (IMHO - it could be 2013 model because Samsung already announced Exynos 4212 which is manufactured at 32nm already) recently announced and OMAP 5 is Cortex A15 ready!
from what I can see krait only uses the cortex-a8 instruction set...not the architecture! infact its architecture is meant to be better than A9 and probably comparable to A15...and considering it is about the only 28nm chipset available currently...should offer pretty good power efficiency...not to mention its cores are asynchronous so it can switch one off if not needed...the only thing that isnt too great is the GPU! so unless u want hardcore gaming it should offer pretty good performance in my opinion. its not always about the number of cores! and also this should improve power efficiency now all I wish is that
(sony) use LED for screens which would give even better power efficiency...and the new phones should have much better batt life!!!!
Android Authority
The new S4 is based on a completely new architecture called Krait (more like the jump from Cortex A9 to Cortex A15 than the one from Cortex A8 to Cortex A9) that is also manufactured at the smallest processing node so far for ARM chips–28 nm.
AnandTech
Scorpion was Qualcomm's first Snapdragon CPU architecture. At a high level, it looked very much like an optimized ARM Cortex A8 design although the two had nothing in common outside of instruction set.
Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. Load/store operations tack on another two cycles and instructions that go through the Neon/VFP path further lengthen the pipe. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. Qualcomm's design does contain more custom logic than ARM's stock A15, which has typically given it a clock speed advantage. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well. Whether the two effectively cancel each other out remains to be seen.
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Posted: 2011-11-21 23:08:25
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http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-announced-at-CES-2012_id23938
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Posted: 2011-11-21 23:21:34
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Hmmm...this could be a very interesting strategy, if in 2012, they have their high end 'new' phones, but also drop the price of their 2011 phones and continue to sell them as mid range or even low end phones?? I could see the cheap one like walkan mix £50, the mini range dropping as far down as £80? the neo/pro around £150 mark and the ray and arc s as £200?
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Posted: 2011-11-21 23:29:22
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Xperiablog is back on!!!
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Posted: 2011-11-21 23:32:27
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If sony ericsson dual-core phones USE are based on scorpion cpu and not krait,it will be a big fail!!!I just hope that they have realised that and the test units that are around the web are just reference devices,with not finalized hardware.(fingers crossed xD)
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Posted: 2011-11-22 00:02:01
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On 2011-11-22 00:02:01, nikos_se wrote:
If sony ericsson dual-core phones USE are based on scorpion cpu and not krait,it will be a big fail!!!I just hope that they have realised that and the test units that are around the web are just reference devices,with not finalized hardware.(fingers crossed xD)
This is from unknown13x
What's wrong with a first gen dual core? Second gen demo won't even go to manufacturers til Q4 2011, which is barely RIGHT NOW. Product development can't even start til RIGHT NOW...Check if you wish. For those who are bashing already, might want to check your facts before posting...SE is already onboard with Qualcomm, so they're using whatever resource Qualcomm give them (Please, don't bring in the argument of the PS Vita, up until this point, they were separate companies)
They will use scorpio cpu.
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Posted: 2011-11-22 00:13:56
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Firstly, if they knew that they couldnt use krait,and they had to use scorpion,they should had moved to ti omap 4-series or tegra3 ,which is better than dual-core scorpion.Plus,lets see what the competition will use for their smartphones.I suspect that HTC will come with dual-core krait,before the end of Q1.Even if krait started sampling in Nov '11,there're still 5 months to go until March '12,which is usually the timeframe SE launches products.I'd rather see a device being pushed back a month or so,and be as good as competition,than been stuck with last-gen processors for the rest of the year.Anyone care to argue??
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Posted: 2011-11-22 00:57:59
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On 2011-11-22 00:57:59, nikos_se wrote:
Firstly, if they knew that they couldnt use krait,and they had to use scorpion,they should had moved to ti omap 4-series or tegra3 ,which is better than dual-core scorpion.Plus,lets see what the competition will use for their smartphones.I suspect that HTC will come with dual-core krait,before the end of Q1.Even if krait started sampling in Nov '11,there're still 5 months to go until March '12,which is usually the timeframe SE launches products.I'd rather see a device being pushed back a month or so,and be as good as competition,than been stuck with last-gen processors for the rest of the year.Anyone care to argue??
It was sampled in July
http://androidandme.com/2011/[....]8nm-device-this-calendar-year/
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Posted: 2011-11-22 02:04:24
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