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Well Raven, I'll try to sum it up.
Psion who made the Epoc operating system(Epoc32 at first) which Symbian is based on, never really broke much of the application compatibility when they released new revisions of this OS. All an author had to do, was basicly recompile it to fit the new screen, and maybe a few other things.
Symbian will not be so daft as to totally change API's and OS layout because its a new version, thereby destroying software compatibility and losing developer support. It's pure logic. There's a reason most apps work on all of Microsofts Operating Systems.
Now seeing as Series 60 lies on TOP of the Symbian OS, what people have to do to convert a app from 7650 to P800 for example, is to take into account any changes the main operating system, and convert to the new UI, which in this case is UIQ. The program itself will convert rather fast, seeing as its all Symbian, the only thing which will take some time is the UI change.
The debate here is how much time will it take. In my opinion, this will not be a big issue. We are talking about the UI here, not core program functions. This is not like converting an app from Windows to Linux. Of course we never know, Symbian might have been so daft to completely break all compatibility, but I seriously doubt this is the case.
-Knut
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Posted: 2002-12-06 23:27:00
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Thanks, Knut. I really do hope that it'll be as easy as you predict here. A lot of software written for the Symbian 6.1 Series 60 will be very usefull on the P800 as well.
We'll just have to wait and see I guess, and if this turnes out to be true, there's no longer any reason for me not getting one of these puppies!
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Posted: 2002-12-07 00:37:00
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Yeah Raven, I hope so too.
There is gonna be a lot of Symbian phones coming out, and there might be more than 2 UI's used in the future too, so I hope cross platform compatibility will be ok. That way Symbian phones will hold out much better against MS phones as well.
-Knut
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Posted: 2002-12-07 02:05:00
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Yep! So, Knut, do you know more about these new symbian powered smartphones that's coming? I was really looking forward to the samsung one, but apparently it's not coming before 2004.
This post was posted from a Nokia 7650
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Posted: 2002-12-07 04:14:00
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Btw, aren't you the same guy who started the 7650i rumours(among others) who's all been proven wrong?
Thanks.
and the 9310 rumours... and the 'SE are gonna release phones on 2nd DEC' rumours... and the 'T400, T500, T700, trust me' rumours...
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Posted: 2002-12-07 08:12:00
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Quote:The debate here is how much time will it take
@Knut.G.: The debate here is (and I'm repeating this for the third time, so please read more carefully) that I claim that Series 60 will be a much more popular and widespread platform so it will have much more software and of better quality. Sure, some of that software will be ported to UIQ, but not all of it because most of the companies will decide that it just doesn't pay off to port to UIQ because only P800 supports it and we all know that SE only has about 5% of market share while Nokia, Siemens and Samsung together have much much more (and they all support Series 60).
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Posted: 2002-12-07 10:50:00
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Quote:@Knut.G.: The debate here is (and I'm repeating this for the third time, so please read more carefully) that I claim that Series 60 will be a much more popular and widespread platform so it will have much more software and of better quality. Sure, some of that software will be ported to UIQ, but not all of it because most of the companies will decide that it just doesn't pay off to port to UIQ because only P800 supports it and we all know that SE only has about 5% of market share while Nokia, Siemens and Samsung together have much much more (and they all support Series 60).
You are as usual repeating a lot for the third(or more) time. Your have a right to your opinion, but I think you are wrong. Your grasp of how market share works also seems a bit off. How does SE's 5% marketshare come into play? Or Siemens, or Samsungs market share? What's interesting in regards to SYMBIAN apps is the marketshare for SYMBIAN phones, not Series20/40 phones, and not SE phones with SE's own OS.
Who cares if Siemens support Series60 if they have yet to release a phone using it? Or Samsung for that matter. Nokia has sold between 1-1.5 million 7650 now, and about 750-900 thousand 9210(not sure about this figure). If the P800 is a success, and sells about the same as the 7650(probably a lot more, seeing as it has no competitors) it will have maybe between 30-45 percent of the SYMBIAN market, how is this not attractive to developers? Even if Nokia sells like crazy on the new Series60 phones, P800 will still have a marketshare of maybe 20%.
You have yet to prove to me and the forum how porting an app from Series60 to UIQ will be difficult. You also fail to grasp the notion that apps can be done on the P800 which are not usable on a Series60 device. Look at the new Opera browser for mobile phones. When they were reviewed on ZDNET, he didnt want to show the browser on the 7650, and instead focused on P800, which he said was "a extremely nice product". Developer love the P800 and the possibilities it provides, so lets just see how things turn out eh? I'm willing to bet a lot of money that things will turn out juuuuust fine.
-Knut
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Posted: 2002-12-07 17:07:00
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OK, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Posted: 2002-12-07 18:33:00
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I agree.
Guess we can agree on something Faca
-Knut
[ This Message was edited by: Knut.G. on 2002-12-07 18:26 ]
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Posted: 2002-12-07 19:25:00
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@knut.G., about the opera browser not being for the 7650, that's because the browser requires too much memory to work properly on the 7650 (unfortunatly). It willl however work on the 3650. I'm sure the p800'll be an attractive device for developers and i'm sure there'll be loads of apps for it, but i don't think we should expect too much too soon.
This post was posted from a Nokia 7650
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Posted: 2002-12-07 21:07:00
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