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@alex - Nice threat . . . !
But I guess we also have to consider the fone's Auto-Focus feature when making comparison
Say with those of: K750 (w/ AF) and say, with - K600 (w/o - AF) . . . I have to agree too that the K600 (2 MP) takes poor pics, tested that numerous times in the past . . .
You also have to include the K618i model (2 MP) with poor camera
Since it has NO - AF . . .
@golden - Nice pics - S700i ! I have to agree that this
model camfone WAS the BEST during it's - prime
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Posted: 2007-08-26 01:21:25
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On 2007-08-26 01:18:53, SaLiH wrote:
They are perfectly good, considering in most aspects other than resolution and xenon flash, the K750's camera outperforms the K800s camera (especially when viewing on a computer screen), but not by that much.
I agree with you, K750i takes better photos indeed, I compared it, when you zoom the photo you took on your PC, you're gonna get more details with K750i, K800i's only advantage is the xenon flash and bigger resolution, luckally I have MXE-60.
Nice pics there mate!
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Posted: 2007-08-26 01:25:09
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@Alexandra
Thank you, I didn't include T650, W960 and P1 because these models don't have Xenon Flash, but I agree they are still great camera phones because they have AF. Oh yes, and I forgot to put S700i and S710i.
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Posted: 2007-08-26 01:28:42
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just buy a Cybershoot phone, and you know its a good camera.
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Posted: 2007-08-26 02:15:36
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On 2007-08-26 00:16:27, Alexandra wrote:
They are perfectly good, considering in most aspects other than resolution and xenon flash, the K750's camera outperforms the K800s camera (especially when viewing on a computer screen), but not by that much.
[ This Message was edited by: Alexandra on 2007-08-25 23:17 ]
What kind of crack are you on with such a general statement??
Can the K750 take a 3.15MP photo? Nope so that statement doesn't count. Now blow up a GOOD quality shot - in great sunlight with a K800/790, then the same with a K750 and blow BOTH up to 10x11 see which one is better & less blurred. 7/10 it'll be the K800 that stands out = ALL WITHOUT messing with cam drivers like SoooOOOoo many ppl do here on Esato - I'm not even sure if the cam drivers can be cleanly removed and brought back to stock?
All in Alexandra, not trying to knock you down ... this thread is EXCELLENT in its idea & execution ... but too many general statements are being made with hard facts or evidence to back them up - double blind evidence. I never owned a K750 long enough that I had photos that I kept, only the W810 - which many here seem to think the lens/sensor is different but equally has good at quality 2MP photos.
All in all it comes right down to the end user and what they prefer. You post points the common end user to knowing what they'll get before laying down the cheddar (= $$). I like that.
Can those with both a default straight out of the box non-branded, non-camdriver modded, non-custom firmware modded K750 take a series of photos & with a K800/790 take the SAME photos in the SAME spot with roughly less than a 2min timeline between phones/shots post up comparisons that each OF us can DOWNLOAD (not esato resizing) and compare at different zoom levels and SEE with our own (subjective) naked eyes .. this'll put up debate, of course but it'll be vary rewarding
again excellent thread.
PS - those with a K790/800 or even a W810 ever notice in default "auto" setting with indoor shots that specs of black blotches (almost 1/2pixels) thta are black? I noticed this a while back when zooming into a photo on the PC (winXP) - say 3 scrollwheel clicks. Haven't figured out why some incadescent shots with lower level light say 1 lightbulb for 50square ft; revealed this phenomenon.
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Posted: 2007-08-26 02:19:52
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i have own many
phones, (all cybershoot and fairly many
).
and the one who i get best qaulity with, is k810i, (but you have to learn the camera on k810i), k750i camera is much easier, (just aim & shoot).
both takes good outdoor pics, (but after i have look on several k750/k810 pics, i see that k810 have less noice & better colors).
so on first place (easily) k810i, and on second place (easily) k750i, of all
phones.
k810i
k750 (best pic i could found)
both pictures is good. BUT you get MUCH better lowlight, indoor pics, etc, with k810i. so yes, k810 is the number one cybershoot phone of all phones.
_________________
k810i
w810i
T28
k850i booked
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-08-26 01:42 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-26 02:35:30
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On 2007-08-26 02:19:52, Prom1 wrote:
On 2007-08-26 00:16:27, Alexandra wrote:
They are perfectly good, considering in most aspects other than resolution and xenon flash, the K750's camera outperforms the K800s camera (especially when viewing on a computer screen), but not by that much.
[ This Message was edited by: Alexandra on 2007-08-25 23:17 ]
What kind of crack are you on with such a general statement??
Can the K750 take a 3.15MP photo? Nope so that statement doesn't count. Now blow up a GOOD quality shot - in great sunlight with a K800/790, then the same with a K750 and blow BOTH up to 10x11 see which one is better & less blurred. 7/10 it'll be the K800 that stands out = ALL WITHOUT messing with cam drivers like SoooOOOoo many ppl do here on Esato - I'm not even sure if the cam drivers can be cleanly removed and brought back to stock?
All in Alexandra, not trying to knock you down ... this thread is EXCELLENT in its idea & execution ... but too many general statements are being made with hard facts or evidence to back them up - double blind evidence. I never owned a K750 long enough that I had photos that I kept, only the W810 - which many here seem to think the lens/sensor is different but equally has good at quality 2MP photos.
All in all it comes right down to the end user and what they prefer. You post points the common end user to knowing what they'll get before laying down the cheddar (= $$). I like that.
Can those with both a default straight out of the box non-branded, non-camdriver modded, non-custom firmware modded K750 take a series of photos & with a K800/790 take the SAME photos in the SAME spot with roughly less than a 2min timeline between phones/shots post up comparisons that each OF us can DOWNLOAD (not esato resizing) and compare at different zoom levels and SEE with our own (subjective) naked eyes .. this'll put up debate, of course but it'll be vary rewarding
again excellent thread.
PS - those with a K790/800 or even a W810 ever notice in default "auto" setting with indoor shots that specs of black blotches (almost 1/2pixels) thta are black? I noticed this a while back when zooming into a photo on the PC (winXP) - say 3 scrollwheel clicks. Haven't figured out why some incadescent shots with lower level light say 1 lightbulb for 50square ft; revealed this phenomenon.
My brother must have modded his K750 cam driver.
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Posted: 2007-08-26 02:37:08
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@ Alexandra; no worries. I'm sorry if my entire post seemed to single you out. That was NOT my intention & I'm happy you didn't take it that way - at least I hope you didn't.
@ plankgatan, excellent shots dude! Love how you captured the contrast of light & shadow on your daughters face. Also noted that the K810's photos still able to tell the single blade of grass in the background.
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Posted: 2007-08-26 03:04:57
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On 2007-08-26 03:04:57, Prom1 wrote:
@ Alexandra; no worries. I'm sorry if my entire post seemed to single you out. That was NOT my intention & I'm happy you didn't take it that way - at least I hope you didn't.
@ plankgatan, excellent shots dude! Love how you captured the contrast of light & shadow on your daughters face. Also noted that the K810's photos still able to tell the single blade of grass in the background.
What really offended me was your first line; I would never want to ruin my life like that.
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Posted: 2007-08-26 03:08:37
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Though I have to AGREE that there are TIMES that the
K750 TAKES 'better' images compared with the K800 . . . I've made this TEST in INDOOR-shots . . . my K750 with an mxe-60 xenon flash !
Take a LOOK here:
K750 taken INDOOR with ALMOST no-lights on, assited by an mxe-60 xenon flash !
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Posted: 2007-08-26 03:10:20
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