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AbuBasim Posts: > 500

I doubt it. As @tai020381 pointed out, even though he was still talking about CMOS sensors, Sony Ericsson will most likely not release any CCD-based camera phones. If they were to release a Cyber-shot camera phone using the same 5MP CCD module Sony delivered to i-mobile (902) or maybe even a newer generation of this module, there would be significant risk of these camera phones hurting Sony's lower-end digicam sales.

I mean, look at the samples @SaliH posted! Would you still be interested in a point-and-shoot camera if your phone could take pictures like these?

Case in point: consider the following two 640x480 crops of 3MP photos shown at 100 percent scale from two CCD-based cameras; one digicam and one camera phone. Can you tell which one came from a camera and which one from a camera phone?

Photo 1:


Photo 2:


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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-08-31 08:23 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 07:49:43
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

the thing is that my k810i takes similar daylights pics then i-mobile 902, (its actaully true), BUT I-MOBILE 902 takes awesome night-pics/lowlight-pics (no doubt about that).

i "know" that i-mobile dosent take much better pics like this, (k810i is a awesome daylight-pics-phone). but the Night-pics, wooaaah, is awesome from i-mobile 902.





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Posted: 2007-08-31 10:17:17
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On 2007-08-31 07:49:43, AbuBasim wrote:
I doubt it. As @tai020381 pointed out, even though he was still talking about CMOS sensors, Sony Ericsson will most likely not release any CCD-based camera phones. If they were to release a Cyber-shot camera phone using the same 5MP CCD module Sony delivered to i-mobile (902) or maybe even a newer generation of this module, there would be significant risk of these camera phones hurting Sony's lower-end digicam sales.

I mean, look at the samples @SaliH posted! Would you still be interested in a point-and-shoot camera if your phone could take pictures like these?

Case in point: consider the following two 640x480 crops of 3MP photos shown at 100 percent scale from two CCD-based cameras; one digicam and one camera phone. Can you tell which one came from a camera and which one from a camera phone?

Photo 1:


Photo 2:


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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-08-31 08:23 ]
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CCD sensors are coming to mobile phones. Its just a matter of time. the perfect timing.
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Posted: 2007-08-31 14:49:21
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goldenface Posts: > 500

Those imobile pics are amazing quality.
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Posted: 2007-08-31 15:09:08
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SaLiH Posts: 460

Guys, my i-mobile 902, finally came yesterday, and everything is ok, I got two batteries, sony headphones with remote, TV cable, 1 GB microSD card, 3.5 mm adapter, custom headphones that look a lot like HPM-70 & USB cable with it. But strange thing happened, when I turned my 902 on, I felt so nostalgic over K750i. I mean I really miss my K750i now, that I think I'm gonna buy another one once again, or mybee K800i. I miss those little things in SE menu. Strange feeling, when I sold my K750i to my friend's sister last night, I was so sad.
This probably means, that everything is not in the camera. SE please make a CCD phone, it doesn't matter how many MP, at least 2 MP!!!!

p.s. I'm gonna write my review of 902 soon!

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[ This Message was edited by: SaLiH on 2007-08-31 19:57 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 20:56:35
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AbuBasim Posts: > 500


On 2007-08-31 10:17:17, plankgatan wrote:
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i "know" that i-mobile dosent take much better pics like this, (k810i is a awesome daylight-pics-phone). . . .

The K810i photos look good when viewed at a small scale on a monitor. But what is the largest size you tried printing the photos at?


On 2007-08-31 20:56:35, SaLiH wrote:
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This probably means, that everything is not in the camera. SE please make a CCD phone, it doesn't matter how many MP, at least 2 MP!!!!
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To each his own, but I agree with you. You really need to want a very good camera to accept the i-mobile 902. The rest of the phone is like a slow low-budget copy of the K750i. For me, the camera is the most important thing in a camera phone and the rest is secondary.


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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-08-31 20:28 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 21:19:00
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SaLiH Posts: 460


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To each his own, but I agree with you. You really need to want a very good camera to accept the i-mobile 902. The rest of the phone is like a slow low-budget copy of the K750i. For me, the camera is the most important thing in a camera phone and the rest is secondary.

For me the camera and MP3 player are the most important things in the phone,because since K750i appeared I love 3 in 1 devices!
abu, can you give me some tpis, do you put saturation to low, do you use daylight and so on... when you tajing your photos? Thanks in advance!
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2007-08-31 20:28 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 21:44:45
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AbuBasim Posts: > 500

Yes, I use the white-balance presets most of the time.
Daylight shots tend to be a bit overexposed so I reduce eV to -0.3. This I even do sometimes for night shots.
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These settings I always leave fixed:
Image Quality: High
Sharpness: Normal
Saturation: Normal
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ISO 200 is good for shots with more "action" but will also give more noise. This can also be used for night shots!
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