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I would hardly call the X1 innovative neither would I call the P900/P910/P990 innovative. The X1 is an improvement of the HTC Tytn II, the "P"s all just improved on the P800. N96 is not innovative either but N95 was.
We all agree that
has a pretty good record when it comes to innovation but they have stopped in the past 2+ years whereas their competitors are going full steam.
made the mistake of thinking that they could just keep selling devices based on their reputation but didn't realize that there is a time limit for this. Especially in the high end phone market users are not idiots, they know that you are not the only pebble on the beach and unless you deliver what you promised they will be going over to greener pastures.
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:18:05
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On 2008-08-04 10:06:49, goldenface wrote:
@QVGA
Please read the title of the thread again:
"What does the term "innovation" mean with regards to a mobile
What are the last five words again?
Yes, I thought so. With regards to a
mobile.
Jeez!
From Wikipedia"The goal of innovation is positive change, to make someone or something better. ".
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2008-08-04 09:30 ]
So you would call 4x optical zoom innovative because it improves on the previous 3x optical zoom on phones?
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:19:58
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Thatds not innovation.We would term optical zoom as innovation as it has never been implemented before.A cam on a phone is innoative, not the pixels.
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:30:19
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@QVGA
I'm afraid you're going to have to contact the Oxford English Dictionary and have a discussion with them as to what the word 'innovative' actually means.
I'm not going to enter into a discussion with you, especially if you're going to base your views on what
your interpretation of the word innovative is, as opposed to what the official meaning of the word is.
Sorry.
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:31:17
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Well, the word 'change' itself is subjective as it entirely depends on how you define 'change'. To me change is something totally new, a solution never implemented before. Of course I assume we can't all agree on that.
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:41:31
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naveedaziz83 Posts: > 500
We all agree that
has a pretty good record when it comes to innovation but they have stopped in the past 2+ years whereas their competitors are going full steam.
@makbil
as u have seen tht ppl here r providing examples of SE being innovative. and since u claim tht their competitors are going full stream, please do share with us some of the examples of innovation from the competitors
@se_dude
now tht was funny. a mobile phone tht will run around wash dishes
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but i think sum1 mentioned in the some of the previous post tht everything new has been introduced and now manufacturers are just perfecting it
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:46:38
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Innovative
'to introduce changes and new ideas'.
Courtesy of the Cambridge Dictionary Online.
SE must file hundreds of Patents a year. A patent wouldn't be accepted unless it was something new and innovative - an invention.
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:48:53
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Wiki says to make something better, or to introduce something new. These are really two very different things when we take innovation in mobile phones.
You just quoted from wiki that "positive change", so I ask again, if SE makes a phone with 4x optical zoom as opposed to previous 3x in other phones, will you call that innovative? Because it certainly is a positive change, but its not innovative by any means
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Posted: 2008-08-04 11:54:13
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naveedaziz83 Posts: > 500
wiki also says
".... something new must be substantially different to be innovative, not an insignificant change"
i think innovation would be going from regular zoom to optical zoom rather thn changing jus the specs of the optical zoom itself
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Posted: 2008-08-04 12:01:01
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You admit innovative means to make a positive change, but then say increasing the optical zoom by 33% isn't innovative.
It might not be
hugely innovative but its still innovative.
Whether the change was from 3x to 4x optical zoom or from 3x to 48x optical zoom a 'positive change' has been made and so that would be classed as an innovation - hardly life-changing - but still an innovation nonetheless.
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Posted: 2008-08-04 12:08:46
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