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Well yes of couse.. This thread turned out disappointing and rather embarassing to say the least!

Anyway, here are my final comments I posted earlier regarding the comparison. I couldn't post more photos, but also one needs no hundreds of comparison photos to come to a conlusion..

Landscape: The N8 exploits the bigger sensor and enhanced optics in comparison to the Satio and leaves the photos as natural as they could get! Almost no noise reduction, and no chromatic post-processing..

Portraits: Color tones are just accurate and natural with incredible detail compared to the Satio.

Night Portraits: Despite the feel of cold results, with the N8 there is no room for over-exposure, and one gets a natural touch as if no flash was used. And here the N8 takes the clear advantage of handling higher ISO speeds.

Macros: N8 isn't that impressive as the Satio or other cameraphones and compacts. That's due to the AF mechanism it uses through its lens. One could elaborate more on this, but no need to because after all, Macros are of high-quality on the N8..

Night Shots: The N8 goes for higher ISO speeds and limits the SS at 1/5s max and make use of an aggressive but ingenious post-processing algorithm to pull out the most of such low light conditions.
The Satio goes for longer SS, lower ISO as it can't handle high ones anyway, keep the aggressive noise reduction, which leads to some respectable results given the all the hardware limits, but useless photos in general!
And that's not to count the camera blur at such SSs; and shooting at automtic mode for such scenes isn't any good either.

Automatic modes: The Satio does a better job to pull out the best of itself in comparison to the N8!
That's why for some users the N8 was labeled as an unfriendly camera.. It does get few parametes wrong depending on how tough the condition shooting at.. And hence one needs to manipulate the settings a bit..
This is a point counted for SE..


Of course the thread would remain open for any other owners of those phones to post some more.. But at least for me, I'm done with this, as I wanted to know whether the N8 is worth the upgarde, and got my asnwer: The N8 is worth it..
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Posted: 2011-01-10 03:30:57
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I didnt need to compare them all that much, Symbian 3 over the Satio's Symbian of old was worth the upgrade even if the N8 came with a standard 5mp snapper.
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Posted: 2011-01-10 21:14:57
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For really excellent night shots I'd prefer super-slow shutter speeds at low ISO speeds. I have a four year old camphone that shoots night shots at ISO 50 with a shutter speed of up to 4 seconds. And this can be cranked up to 10 seconds with EV +2.0...
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Posted: 2011-01-10 23:23:11
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From what I have seen the Satio produces very noisy shots
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Posted: 2011-01-10 23:44:24
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@ etaab

As to the phone in general, it's a no brainer actually.. I agree.

But I meant as a camera. Had the Satio been a better camera, I would have sent the N8 back and sticked to my Satio with all its shortcomings compared to the N8..

@ AbuBasim

Do you mean a modded SE Cybershot phone?
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Posted: 2011-01-11 02:32:15
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No. I'm talking about this one.
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Posted: 2011-01-11 06:55:36
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Where did you come up with this phone from?!

Anyway, it's the first time I know i-mobile used (or maybe still) to produce decent cameraphones!

What about the camera interface?
How do you get those SSs? Is it about an automated mode as in SE cameraphones or is it about manual setting?

The quality of those pics aren't of high-qulity. But that's comparing them to what cameraphones are capable of today!
Four years back, this phone should have been a hit. And I never knew it existed..
Is it available outside Thailand btw?
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Posted: 2011-01-11 09:20:49
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The phone is no longer produced. It came it around the same time as LG's only CCD-based camphone, the KG920. Both use the same camera module, produced by Sony which incidentally supplied Canon with exactly the same sensor for their 5MP P-S cameras around the same time. One of the cameras was the Digital IXUS 55.

The phone is only available from Thailand. I bought mine from eBay.

I agree about the picture quality. For daylight shots my N8 gives much better results. But for night shots, nothing beats the 902. Shutter speed is automatically chosen when selecting Night mode from the scene selection.

The camera is tuned for picture quality and low noise which means fairly slow shutter speeds even for normal photos to counter for the tiny lens. Difficult to shoot hand-held indoors.

The camera interface is very similar to the Cybershot interface. This made some people believe that this phone was produced by Sony but the OEM is actually Asus.

I found out about this phone from M-R's review here.

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Posted: 2011-01-11 11:44:42
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@ false morel:

I have elaborated my ideas more than I should have.

You have your own ideas regarding cameraphones. I have mine, and they are clearly different from yours.

I will always start threads open to discussion whenever I please. You can call that incorrect. It´s your right.

I will just stay highly unsatisfied by knowing that the slowest available SS for my N8 at ISO-100 is 1/18s (normally 1/8s, but when you select a manual ISO setting, then it changes its bottom limit to 1/18s).

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Posted: 2011-01-12 00:40:58
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Hi Vit,

Its not by much but your numbers are incorrect.. at ISO-100 is 1/15s (normally 1/5s, but when you select a manual ISO 100 setting, then it changes its bottom limit to 1/15s) not 1/18

Again.. I agree with you, there should be a slower shutter speed option, but the positives far outweigh this limitation for me.
I have just accepted the fact that the N8 is not suited for slow shutter creative night time photography.
But for everything else, its the best.

So, will you be keeping your N8?
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Posted: 2011-01-12 03:15:31
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